• Saleh@feddit.org
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    29 days ago

    There is cities in Ukraine that look better despite two years of heavy fighting since Russias invasion.

    Fun fact. Israel sold drones to Russia which it used to target Ukraine for their bombers and artillery. And they did that after the russian invasion of Chrimea. Also Israel denied to support sanctions against Russia.

    Now Ukraine will probably be sacrificed to Russia so the US and EU can focus on helping Israel murder more Arabs.

    Truly a friend to the West.

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      29 days ago

      The only reason we didn’t arm Ukraine to the death immediately is because Russia has been the years since the Cold War extending its tentacles into the governments of the western world. We should have treated Ukraine like we are treating Israel now. They are actually defending themselves instead of using us to dominate their region.

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        29 days ago

        “extending its tentacles” nice antisemitic dogwhistle you have there.

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          I got it from this, can you point to me where the antisemitic imagery is in this picture?

          Or did you think of this?

          Either way, I’m confused how I can be antisemitic when referring specifically about Russia, who is not semitic in anyway.

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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

            Jewish Bolshevism, also Judeo–Bolshevism, is an antisemitic and anti-communist conspiracy theory that claims that the Russian Revolution of 1917 was a Jewish plot and that Jews controlled the Soviet Union and international communist movements, often in furtherance of a plan to destroy Western civilization. It was one of the main Nazi beliefs that served as an ideological justification for the German invasion of the Soviet Union and the Holocaust.

            Works propagating the canard

            The Octopus

            The Octopus is a 256-page book self-published in 1940 by Elizabeth Dilling under the pseudonym “Rev. Frank Woodruff Johnson”. In it, she describes her theories of Jewish Bolshevism.

            And the image of Propaganda you show there has the UDSSR, US, England and China in its arms. The whole tentacle image is heavily intertwined in antisemitic conspiracy bullshit.

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              Ah, a book I haven’t read. While I do not know the contents I can assure you, as well as my post history, that was not my intention. It is a pretty succinct image of what Russia is doing though by installing Russian loyalists in Western governments. Like thats happening, I should not have to refer you to take a look at the current GOP to figure that out.

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            28 days ago

            I have no words for people like you who are genocide deniers. And I saw that you’re German too, ironic too given the history of your country.

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              Lots of people are dieying in Gaza, yes. However it’s a war, not a genocide.

              The number of deaths would be far higher if Israel intended a genocide.

              Things can be bad without being a genocide.

              Contrary to you I know more about genocides, also because of where I come from.

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            That’s only because they haven’t been able to count the dead because they’ve lost the capability. Doctors coming back to the US from Gaza are positive that dead have increased to around 100,000, although ice also seen 200,000 but no one knows now, due to many deaths under rubble, or due to starvation or disease that aren’t able to make it to medical facilities. They don’t basically don’t have the capacity to count too much more.

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              If you actually read the source in Lancet, you would know that this is an estimate without any evidence.

              The estimate is originally from months ago and hasn’t accumulated any evidence since.

              The Hamas run health ministry not only counts bodies, but also other people they have some proof that they died. For example if people are known to be buried in rubble, they are already counted. Granted not all bodies under the rubble are counted.

              However the predicted high numbers of dead caused by famine and disease have not materialized during the last half year.

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                However the predicted high numbers of dead caused by famine and disease have not materialized during the last half year.

                Says who? Israel? I don’t think you understand exactly what’s happening over there. The devastation is everywhere. Millions are displaced. The health ministry is extremely overwhelmed. Not everyone buried in rubble, starved, or sick is being counted. Whole families are being obliterated with no one left to go over and report their missing or dead family members. There will be tons of missing people who will never be confirmed, because of all these factors. Not to mention, Israel is keeping the fog of war extremely high, not only with all the bombs but the targeted killings of doctors, aid workers, and reporters and journalists.

                The estimates are in numerous places. There are the ones by the Lancet, but the letter by the 99 doctors and aid workers who were just in Gaza have their own that’s higher, too. The point is, it’s being corroborated by experts who are actually there, along with being based on past situations like this. I think the doctors actually dealing with this crisis who are on the situation on the ground have a better idea of what’s happening than you do.

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                  I don’t doubt that the situation is bad. The destruction of infrastructure makes everything more difficult, including health care. Doctors also only see the worst aspects in situations like this.

                  What makes Gaza a special case, is that refugees aren’t allowed to flee to a safe neighboring country or at least the West Bank. The refugees should be allowed to leave the war zone, like they are in every other war. They would be better off in a place with working infrastructure.

                  Hamas’ insistence on continuing the war is the reason it came to this. If they cared for their people, they would have surrendered months ago and freed the hostages. If Hamas didn’t use hospitals for military purposes, they wouldn’t be attacked.