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“The US government will evacuate US citizens who have been unable to book commercial transit…”
And “The US embassy is not evacuating US citizens at this time. There is a commercially available flight available…”
There’s a word we Americans like to use for liars who stretch the truth to fit their narrative: Republicans. Be a shame if we had to change it.
Scary the amount of people on Lemmy who just didn’t read what little text is there.
Well, this is posted by someone who seems to spend their entire lives jerking off about spreading negative shit about Biden, so makes sense
I upvoted after reading the first couple sentences because I already know Biden is a racist.
I know Biden is a racist because there’s no way he’d do to any white people what he’s doing to the Palestinians.
The Palestinians will never, ever, ever get the kind of sympathy the Ukrainians are getting, because the Palestinians aren’t white.
That reads like it comes from a healthy mind.
Turn the TV, phone and computer off for a few days my guy. Pick up that hobby you’ve been putting off, as long as it’s not making pipe bombs.
Not one white country (except a Muslim one).
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Bosnia is mostly white.
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The only countries most people would consider to be “white” are western European countries that are geopolitically stable. We have treaties with those countries and most (read all) are aligned with NATO.
Sure, you can argue that the United States is bombing the countries in this graphic to try to kill ethnic minorities, but that’s an argument in bad faith and you know it. Is the US trying to take advantage of arms sales and profiteer from resources in those countries? Yes. Are they also trying to come to the aid of foreign governments battling terror organizations and leaders with dictatorial ambitions? Also yes. Geopolitics and foreign policy don’t fall neatly into good/bad actions. Switzerland is famously neutral when it comes to warring nations, but they also allowed their banks to profit and enable the Nazis during WW2. Inaction can be just as damaging as action if not more so.
Yugoslavia would be mostly white as well, or whatever countries it split into.
Also I was shocked when the Swiss ended their neutrality stance on the invasion of Ukraine
I was only focused on the countries listed in the graphic, but Yugoslavia being left out shows that this graphic is serving a bias.
Bosnia is mostly white.
And Muslim. I mentioned that.
Sure, you can argue that the United States is bombing the countries in this graphic to try to kill ethnic minorities
No. They aren’t minorities. There are more of them than there are white people.
You’re showing your Eurocentricism.
Excuse my faux pas. In the context of the argument, the ethnicity of the citizens living in those countries would be classified as minority ethnicities in America. Not that they are minorities in their own country. I would hope that anyone who’s first language is English could make that assumption. But you’re right.
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So the US hasn’t gone to war with Europe or Russia. Amazing insight
The US never dropped a nuclear bomb on Germany. They saved that for the Japs.
Downvote all you want, you know I’m right.
He was born in 1942. He probably thinks white people are the world’s civilizing force, and the Palestinians are getting what they deserve for refusing to accept their white colonialist masters.
He probably thinks third-world countries “aren’t real countries”, but he has to pretend otherwise because of “political correctness”.
He probably thinks Israel isn’t bombing the Palestinians fast enough, and complains to Bibi that America could do it faster.
If he thought anything else, he would be unusual for his age.
You’re creating a fantasy within your mind assuming what a person you never met and will never meet thinks about geopolitical issues. This is about as unhinged as people get.
He’s an old white American. Assuming that he’s racist should be the default assumption until and unless he demonstrates that he’s not racist.
And he has not demonstrated that. He has gone out of his way to fund and supply a genocide of brown people, despite the electoral damage it’s doing to his party.
Occam’s fucking razor.
It doesn’t matter what I think. He’ll go down in history as a racist monster, and so will all of his defenders.
“I don’t think you should call people racist just because they’re committing genocide. You don’t know them personally.”
White people care more about a white person being called racist than they do about genocide.
And now, everyone, I will prove that white people are racist with my own blatantly racist argument.
Sounds like a hell of a lot of projection of your own bigotry.
Yeah yeah. “People who call out racism are the real racists.” That’s the standard response of white people.
Everytime someone calls a white person racist, they get accused of being racist against white people. It doesn’t matter how clearly racist the white person is. (And that’s why non-white people are afraid to call out racism.)
I’ve known so many racist old guys just like Biden. If you don’t, you’re either young or you’re not American.
Also, I like how you assumed I’m not white.
Why aren’t we evacuating people? It’s great that you can read. But we want you to do the 2+2 too.
Commercial flights will all be fully booked for months at least. The only realistic way for most Americans in Lebanon will likely be evacuation.
Does it not say “those unable to book flights”?
My thoughts exactly. The right side says commercial flights are available and they will have to book those commercial flights. The left side says commercial flights are not available to all, and they will help those who can’t book one.
It certainly does. They could have added it where it is missing maybe, but potentially there are multiple flights available with maybe more capacity than needed?
When it’s white people: there’s commercial flights available but some are unable to book (because tickets limited? Because those people are too poor? No idea) so we have to use gov funds to make sure no one is left behind
When it’s “brown” people: commercial flights are available if you’ve got the cash, if not, go fuck yourself
This interpretation makes no sense. They’re evacuating people from Israel, but not Lebanon. It has nothing to do with the ethnicity of the citizen specifically. It’s not as if a Lebanese American in Israel would be denied, which is what the stupid Twitter post and this post claim.
Israel is much safer than Lebanon, though. Lebanon isn’t bombing Israel.
You can still buy a flight out of Lebanon, which seems to be what the messages are getting across.
If you’re in Israel, it seems commercial flights are hard to come by, and the US will help you charter a ride home.
If you’re in Lebanon, there’s still commercial flights available and you should GTFO ASAP.
Bro, about 9k rockets have been fired at Israel from Lebanon since 8 October… that is why there have been Israelis evacuated from the north for almost a year
That’s the point. That’s the whole ass point. Lebanon is getting the snot bombed out of it and Israel looks ready to invade. But we’re not evacuating Americans.
The British have already told all British citizens to leave and have an evacuation force in Cyprus. But Biden is like, “fuck you, good luck!”
This seems like a troll baiting thread. I don’t know enough to tell completely so I’m going to lock it.
I think this is probably a dumb question, but I’ve never thought about it before and sure-as-shootin’ don’t know. The screenshot indicated one group of Americans is considered white and one is not. Is that a known perception? It’s a total first-heard for me and I just… shit, it’s never even crossed my mind to think about that.
TIA
Race in general is a social construct that changes to suite racists, like when Italians weren’t considered white but now are. But, racists of today consider Israeli/Jewish people with white while Lebanese/Muslim people are non-white/brown.
Many/most people in Israel have some or a large amount of European ancestry, and are generally considered white. This is probably especially true for American ones. Meanwhile Lebanese people do not really have any large connection to European ancestry.
I don’t think I know anyone who would consider an “Israeli-American” to be white, or even any whiter than “Lebanese-American”, and I’m solidly Midwestern.
I kind of want to send out a bunch of messages to people asking if they consider one “white” or “whiter” than the other…
I know plenty of people who will give Israel carte Blanche simply because it “needs to exist for Jesus to come back” though, so answers wouod be skewed I imagine.
Sorry I didn’t really answer your question, I’m interested to hear other people’s takes as well.
I think if you don’t know anyone that thinks Israelis are predominantly white that’s more on you than anything else.
Jews go into the “white” bucket for ethnicity while Muslims go into the “brown” bucket. Anecdotally in America at least this seems true of their general skin color. I’d say a large part is also that America hasn’t really valued any middleast Muslim lives since 9/11 (perhaps earlier but I’m not that old).
Unless you’re an actual neo Nazi, Jews have been accepted into the whiteness construct since the Holocaust. Arabs not so much…
For those missing the context which seems like the entire section right now, The US has already evacuated all families of US personnel and nonessential personnel. The only next step for the State Department is the Marines flying into Beirut in helicopters to evacuate remaining personnel.
This is when civilians are evacuated with the most efficiency and highest survival rate. It costs the US next to nothing, in it’s multi trillion dollar budget, to fly a C-130 into Beirut everyday right now for any American who cannot afford a commercial ticket or cannot secure a commercial ticket.
The reason for this is both the bombing campaign and that Netanyahu has told Biden they are going in on the ground and they’re ready to do so at any time. The fact that we have not issued an evacuation order to American citizens in Lebanon and are not providing evacuations now is straight up bullshit.
Do you mind sharing where you learned that America is sending a flight to actually evacuate Lebanese-Americans? The articles I have read saying they are sending troops there on standby but are not actually evacuating anyone in Lebanon yet.
Technically, Israeli’s are considered “brown people” too.
Biden: Pro human rights when it’s politically convenient.
Left screenshot: “If you aren’t able to book a commercial flight from Isreal, starting in 2 weeks we will help you”
Right screenshot: “we are not currently evacuating people from Lebanon, since there are normal commercial flights”
OP: “THATS RACIST!”
You: “Wow, look at how political that is!”
OP, Linkerbaan, posts constant propaganda on Lemmy.
Only anti-Biden propaganda. I sure would feel weird if I was on a website from Luxembourg constantly criticizing politicians in the Netherlands or something.
Yeah. Seems their intention with the bulk of their posts is to get Trump elected. I assume they’re paid by the Kremlin.
Left screen shot, there’s no real danger but we’ll evacuate you.
Right screen shot, Israel is unaliving entire city blocks and may invade tomorrow. Good luck fuckers!
Get it yet?
Canada is evacuating it’s citizens from Lebanon.
Ok, and your point is? The US and the Netherlands, and the UK aren’t evacuation. They’ve specifically called on people to leave, but the UK and the Netherlands specifically don’t run evacuation flights, because commercial flights have plenty of space. Just like the US, apparently.
Why are American citizens from one country getting better treatment than the other?
Today, they’re not. If you want an evacuation flight form Isreal today, you can’t, you need to book a commercial flight. If you want one from Lebanon, you can’t, you need to book a commercial flight. That’s the same treatment for everyone.
In 2.5 weeks from today, you can ask for help getting a flight from Israel. Will the same apply to Lebanon in 2.5 weeks? I dunno, they haven’t told anyone either way, though other countries have said they’d organise flights if all commercial flights are full/stopped (I assume the same would apply for the US).
I mean, if you want me to point out the US is massively unfairly helping Isreal to the massive detriment of the entire region, i’ll gladly do that. But this mostly doesn’t seem like a fair comparison.
The post literally says that Israeli-American’s can have help booking flights from the American government but the American-Lebanese ones will not get the same level of help. How is that the same treatment?
If you read the screenshots, not the braindead text, that’s absolutely not what it says. Try again I guess.
In the way I just said.
Unfortunately even that’s a high bar for most US politicians. There’s plenty worse, but vanishingly few that go beyond it.
