• Grayox@lemmy.mlOP
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    5 months ago

    Capitalism does not self regulate, it consolidates. You should try reading Marx and Lenin’s actual writings, you seem very earnest and dont come off as a troll. There are multiple free audio recordings on YouTube of their works. Humanity must escape the all powerful driving forces of the profit motives Capitalism enforces or perish off the face of this earth. That process if it is to take place will appear extremely authoritarian to those who value profit above all else.

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      5 months ago

      Capitalism does not self regulate[…]

      Correct, hence “In theory” and “nonsense” in the words surrounding that phrase.

      You should try reading Marx and Lenin’s actual writings[…]

      I certainly would like to read at bare minimum some of Marx’s works, but ADHD is really not conducive to being able to read even mildly long texts, like I couldn’t even get all the way through Einstein’s Why Socialism?.

      There are multiple free audio recordings[…]

      Audio is even worse on that front, as I’ll end repeatedly tuning parts out and have to go back and listen to those parts again, which just isn’t good for motivation.

      […]you seem very earnest[…]

      I like to think so at least. I just don’t like when people fall into the “A is bad, B opposes A, therefore B is good” trap.

      Humanity must escape the all powerful driving forces of the profit motives Capitalism enforces[…]

      Agreed. Wholeheartedly.

      That process if it is to take place will appear extremely authoritarian to those who value profit above all else.

      They may attempt to paint it as such, but it need not actually be so. Even if that process were to take the form of a violent revolution (which, to be clear it doesn’t need to.)

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        5 months ago

        I like to think so at least. I just don’t like when people fall into the “A is bad, B opposes A, therefore B is good” trap.

        I do think this is a bit of a thought-terminating cliche. It implies people who are actively recommending reading and understanding the theory that supports their beliefs so you can better judge for yourself are just assuming means from ends.

        In reality, Marxists have to read Marx to understand his critique, his philosophy, and his recommendations, because it simply isn’t taught in western education. Lenin is even more unknown to the average person.

        Grayox isn’t telling you that you must agree with them, but suggesting reading the same theory they have so you can better discuss it.

        Just my 2 cents.

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          5 months ago

          That particular statement wasn’t directed at Grayox specifically, it was more about a particular subset self-identified communists on the internet, including (some of?) the lemmy.ml admins, and many users of lemmygrad and hexbear. The ones that correctly identify that the USA is bad, but then prop up the likes of the Soviet Union, the PRC, the DPRK, and even Russia (which doesn’t even claim to be communist) as paragons of good, when often times they’re worse than the US.