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    Apple will happily throw away a good machine to sell you a new one, their eco friendlyness and repairability scores are self scored bullshit.

    Having police access to everyone’s phone would not make people safer. You would not have enough police to monitor and it is a backdoor for hacking.

    Just like Intel Management Engine that gave hackers passwordless entry into machines. Having control like that is not safety.

    Plus anyone with physical access is going to defeat security anyway.

    My linuxOS has a MOC signed by microsoft, an OS can work on TPM with a signature…hackers will find a way to spoof into it

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      Apple will happily throw away a good machine to sell you a new one, their eco friendlyness and repairability scores are self scored bullshit.

      That’s beside the point. They make their machines with recycled materials, and it’s a fact. There are people using 10 year old MacBooks and iPads, so I don’t think anybody is being forced to “throw away” a good machine.

      Having police access to everyone’s phone would not make people safer. You would not have enough police to monitor and it is a backdoor for hacking.

      That was an example. What they would do is have computer scan your data for illegal content (like they planned to do with iCloud), and any flagged data would get checked by an actual person. If you think this wouldn’t help protect people, you are lying to yourself. Whether this is a privacy issue or not is not the point, the point is that “it’s for the children” is a valid concern for implementing this kind of stuff and not just something to be skeptical about.

      Just like Intel Management Engine that gave hackers passwordless entry into machines. Having control like that is not safety.

      You are still evading the issue at hand. I never claimed backdoors are not a security issue, I said they would definitely help protect the children, as I repeated above.

      Plus anyone with physical access is going to defeat security anyway.

      Obviously. The point of things like TPM is to prevent remote hacking. Who claimed otherwise? You cannot guarantee the safety of any system if the attacker has physical access. I assume your computer doesn’t have a log in password since anyone with physical access can defeat it, right?

      My linuxOS has a MOC signed by microsoft, an OS can work on TPM with a signature…hackers will find a way to spoof into it

      Yes, nothing is foolproof. Should we stop advancing security just because it’s not perfect? Should we stop using SSL/TLS because BREACH and POODLE exploits exist? Should we stop using passwords because someone can brute force them? Maybe we should also throw away memory and thread safe languages because there are some corner cases where they can be used in an unsafe manner? Listen to yourself.

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        You sir are deluded. And maybe that is by ignorance, Please go watch any of countless Louis Rossman videos about how apple claims a device irrepairable and he fixes it for 5 dollars. Etc. Soldered RAM, faulty switches , bad display cable, all easy fixes that the geniuses will suggest you buy new because it will cost as much to fix. Apple is an e waste producing company.

        As for scanning peoples data, it already proved that it did more harm than good. CSAm people just change behaviors ur, and you have legit people having their accounts frozen and police called when their doctor during covid asked for photos of skin rashes. It is hard for an innocent guy to live down arrest for false child porn. Don’t drink all the koolaid.

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          Please go watch any of countless Louis Rossman videos about how apple claims a device irrepairable and he fixes it for 5 dollars.

          Louis Rossman complains about Apple not supplying 3rd party repairmen with the parts needed to do the repairs. He has acknowledged multiple times that you cannot expect Genius bar employees to know how to do board-level repair.

          Etc. Soldered RAM

          Soldered RAM is not an Apple only thing. It is for manufacturers who don’t want to support people with unstable systems due to installing unsupported RAM. Remember Apple devices are mostly one SOC with everything soldered to reduce possible points of failure.

          faulty switches , bad display cable, all easy fixes that the geniuses will suggest you buy new because it will cost as much to fix. Apple is an e waste producing company.

          These are design defects, every company ran by humans is allowed to make them. These are easy fixes if you know what the issue is, it is not cost effective for Apple to have a Genius Bar employee open every device and check all components with an oscilloscope to find out if it’s a faulty display cable or a missing capacitor. It is more efficient for Apple to just replace the entire mainboard, and this is expensive for the consumer because you are essentially getting a brand new computer. Yes, this is bad practice, but don’t confuse this with creating e-waste. When you hand in your computer, all recyclable parts are salvaged and used for future Apple devices, and newer devices are more recyclable than older ones.

          As for scanning peoples data, it already proved that it did more harm than good. CSAm people just change behaviors ur,

          Like I said before nothing is foolproof, and I don’t advocate for these measures. However, the point of these is to force CSAM people to use other services, and if all cloud services implement this, all of a sudden CSAM people have to go around sharing thumb drives or magnet links, which lowers their ability to share the files.

          and you have legit people having their accounts frozen and police called when their doctor during covid asked for photos of skin rashes. It is hard for an innocent guy to live down arrest for false child porn.

          Yes it is not possible to differentiate between CSAM and pictures for a doctor, and that Google incident is why Apple didn’t proceed with the iCloud scanning. Again I don’t advocate for these measures, as I’m completely against espionage, but people like to pretend like these technologies are made with the sole purpose of spying on you and that “for the kids” is just an excuse. People like that are deeply unserious because they seem to forget that if the company wants to look at your data, they will and don’t even have to tell you about it.

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            2 days ago

            I have to bow out, all your points are apple apologists rhetoric, or are odd logic leaps that have been proven wrong. if you consume any technical or privacy based media you would know this. Have a good weekend.

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              Yes, all points that have been proven wrong yet you fail to provide proof of that. Have a good weekend.