• Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Wild that we let a person cover their vehicle with signs that essentially say “I have severe untreated mental illness and no grip on reality”, and society at large says “sure, keep operating that heavy machinery in public”.

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      3 months ago

      “I have severe untreated mental illness and no grip on reality”

      (Emphasis mine)

      That is a vast oversimplification of how people work. It is absolutely plausible to me that someone might believe obvious lies but is otherwise qualified to drive heavy machinery. Analyzing the society you live in is a totally different skill than driving.

      For example, if I found out my bus driver literally believes that reptilians run the world, I would still trust them to drive my bus because driving a bus has nothing to do with lizard people. Conversely, I wouldn’t trust a bus driver who agrees with everything I believe in but is currently having a panic attack.

      This is important to me because I am mentally ill (treated, but mentally ill nonetheless) and autistic (which is treated like a mental illness), and this is the kind of logic that tyrants use to manufacture popular consent to further marginalize mentally ill people.

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        So where I live if you have a disease, physical or mental, you go to a doctor and they decide if you’re ok to drive or if you need to pass an extra test first where you are judged if you’re able to drive safely with whatever disabilities you have. This is besides the standard driving test and written test. Also everybody has to take lessons with a professional.

        It’s however not perfect because the government doesn’t have access to your medical records (which is good). But that means you have to be honest on a form about your disabilities. Plus the doctor visit is not covered by insurance and costs around 200 euros.

        Plus if you already have your licence there isn’t really a system in place to prevent you for driving if your health declines.

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        Look, I understand the line you are trying to walk here, but encountering a vehicle like this and thinking “this guy just has different ideas than me, but is otherwise trustworthy” is not rational thinking.

        There’s a difference between believing in conspiracy theories and covering your van with warnings about the nanochips on your body that give you computer generated diseases.

        If I learned that someone suffering extreme paranoid delusions like this were in charge of operating a passenger vehicle, I would be extremely concerned with the safety of those passengers.

        This isn’t some unreasonable thing. I have a lot of compassion for those who suffer from mental illness, but I also think that public safety should take precedent when it is clear that someone is mentally incapable of being trusted with things like heavy machinery.

        It’s not the ideas expressed on this vehicle that concern me. It’s that every part of this indicates a serious and untreated mental health problem. The only way my opinion could be redeemed is if the owner of the van came forward and said it was a joke, or a prop for a movie or something, because nobody with a connection to reality is going to write those things all over a truck and parade around town trying to spread the word if they aren’t severely dissociated from reality.

        And I cannot stress this enough, nothing about this story has anything to do with Autism. Paranoid delusions are not a typical issue for Autistic people.

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        3 months ago

        The guy driving this van is probably about as functional as someone in the middle of a panic attack. Very likely erratic and on meth I would not trust to drive.

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        If you’re a crazy enough that this makes sense, I don’t think you should be driving a vehicle even if you’re technically capable of doing so. At least not until you get diagnosed and treated.

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        There’s a big difference between a danger that is tangible and immediate, such as a collision with another vehicle, and something that cannot be seen or interacted with, like electricity or a virus.

        There’s nothing about this that tells me this person can’t drive safely.

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      3 months ago

      By “forgot his meds” you mean “forgot to go to the doctor 30 years ago to get diagnosed so he could be prescribed them in the first place,” right?

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      Not at all, people believe in magic sky faires and put stickers on their car about it… Hell lots of cop cars abs court rooms have nonsense about said sky fairy on it. In bobo we trust … Aside from scale, there’s no real difference.

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    if you are addicted to cat and dog you have a nano chip on your body

    so thats what’s causing it

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    It’s like a Dr Bronners bottle on bath salts.

    Hmmm… maybe they ate (smoked? Boofed?) bath salts in the bath while cleaning with Dr. Bronners.

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      If you want a real trip, look into the philosophies of the creators of modern cereals, like Kellogg. Shit like Raisin Bran, Grape Nuts, and hell even Graham Crackers were invented as part of this weird moralistic pseudoscientific health crusade nonsense going around at the time. It’s pretty fucking weird.

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    3 months ago

    i really wish we had a more robust mental healthcare system that could help people like this before they get to this point.