• lars@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Genocide’s a dealbreaker but I encourage swingstaters to vote Harris

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        ““He’s doing a good job,” Trump said about the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that [Netanyahu] decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

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          If there is not an option on the ballot to oppose genocide then our system is fascist already.

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          That’s nice dear. Biden is currently commiting genocide and has troops in Israel commiting genocide. Harris has stated she is not changing from bidens policy.

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            And Trump has stated he will commit to turbo super genocide.

            I get it, we dont have levels of genocide but maybe we should because Biden and Harris are probably around a 4/10 and Trump is aiming for 11/10

            Get over yourself and take the choices you have and vote for the best one. Choosing not to vote is implicit support for the worst one.

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                So of the two candidates available which one is committing less genocide.

                BTW I don’t live in a sithole that is about to elect nazi zombie geriatric Hitler because they think a woman is too scary.

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                  If you believe you need to commit genocide to live, you’re a fascist that should not physically be allowed to continue to exist. Period.

                  There is nothing worse than commiting a genocide, because the genocide never stops at the intended target.

                  The US and Israel started with Palestinians and now are expanding to all arabs. They have escalated once. They will escalate again. There is no less genocide or more genocide. There is just genocide. Either you support it, in which case see the first sentence, or you’re not voting for it.

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                I don’t conflate voting for one of two options with consent or endorsement of all their actions.

                This is why the whole system needs to change.

                Can it be done before the next president’s term starts? Unlikely, so maybe we need to hold our noses and vote against Netanyahu’s preferred candidate.

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                  It doesn’t matter if you believe it. I’m entirely sure, in fact I know for a fact, there were Nazis that solely supported the economic rhetoric of the party.

                  They were exactly as responsible as every other Nazi.

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    also though name the policy point of his you support? nobody talks actual positions lol

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    Is it wrong to call a Nazi a Nazi? No and it should be done regularly.

    For 16+ years I’ve been watching the divisions grow. It started with the covert racism of the tea party and birtherism and in 2015 an orange turd slid down an escalator and brought it all out into the open, making it ok to identify people as rapists and murders based on where they are from and the color of their skin.

    There has always existed “others” to those who need to have someone to blame or someone to punch down and there always will be. But I liked it better when they weren’t so empowered. “Democracy dies in darkness” but so does hate.

    It used to be that not knowing how to spell potato or not wanting to eat broccoli was enough to damage a political reputation. To say that you don’t like the man who divides and insults, funnels tax money to his pockets, attacks women verbally and physically, and threatens the security of our nation and our allies’; but still vote for him is insanity. At this point I can only conclude that his supporters embrace the racism, are willfully ignorant, view him as a useful idiot, or a bit of it all.

    End rant. I didn’t want to actually add to the divide, but finding common ground is nearly impossible.

    I’m happy to vote for Harris. A person who supports all Americans regardless of how they identify in any way. I am excited to have someone who will fight for equality. Someone who understands that income and wealth disparity is failing lower and middle classes.

    Harris is not perfect, but perfect for me won’t be for someone else, so searching for perfect is a losing hand.

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      I agree things used to be more… sensible? But the issue I take here is the bit about hate. It does not die in darkness. It festers. It may be forgotten and quaint by the time it boils back up, but it remains. The best resolution to hate is enlightenment and education, but that is a difficult and involved commitment, which doesn’t suit our particular need to fight the nearest alligator at all times. The greater risk comes when we’ve forgotten about the hate because we were busy with something else.

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        You’re right it doesn’t die, but it is suffocated a bit in my experience. When it is not okay to be hateful, when people actually are not comfortable putting their hatred out there, it doesn’t spread as easily.

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    These are the “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” Republicans all over the city. It doesn’t matter what they believe, or say they believe, the only thing they think about at the polls is conservatism.

    “I absolutely support education, just not with my tax dollars.”

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      Ah the ol’ bootstrap manifestors

      Completely oblivious to the circumstances that gifted them their lives, yet insistent on making their delusion a reality for those less fortunate.

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        Completely oblivious to the circumstances that gifted them their lives

        I think it’s wilful ignorance, at least sometimes. They know they succeed because of taxes paid by previous humans, they just don’t want to contribute themselves.

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        My parents sure do love voting away all social welfare from existence.

        My family would not have survived without the food, medical, and schooling assistance we recieved. Without their church helping out, we wouldn’t have had the rent several times.

        They don’t see any problem here.

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    It’s pretty simple. Just like when the simple solution to defeating the Nazis was to fucking kill them or force them to surrender and rot in a prison. The approach still stands. You don’t let fire spread; you put it out. You don’t let disease spread; you kill or contain it. You don’t let mold grow in your house; you eradicate it.

    You don’t let nazis march in your streets in 2024; you beat the fuck out of them and send them to hell.

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      We can’t beat up the Nazis when the cops are already there protecting them, it’s insane that we’ve gotten to this point

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        We can’t beat up the Nazis when the cops are already there protecting them, it’s insane that we’ve gotten to this point

        Cops were always out there protecting reactionary politics.

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        The reality is that if people want to stop simply dreaming about revolution, shit is gonna get way ugly before it gets better. Us USA folks are stuck in a country that has both the biggest military and by extension, police forces, in the entire world. Our government looks at world atrocities and is like “yeah, we patented that.”

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    But surely the biggest problem in America is that oligarchs pay too much taxes /s We too will be welcome into the oligarch club, and who tf wants to pay 21% corporate taxes when we get there. Like why bother ruling over all of you, if we will have to pay taxes?