Anon crushed the alternative ending absolutely 1000x better than the actual show runners for free.
Putting Marvel style quips into this completely kills it lol. “They say the best swords have names, gang? Any wacky ideas??” “Oh yikes! Not right now!” “Let’s name it Mountain Dew Baja Blast sponsored by Morgan and Morgan!”
Jaime killing the Night King should have been the only right answer. It makes the whole trip beyond the wall to get evidence worth it instead of being for nothing, and it completes the greatest redemption arc in television history.
God DAMN that gave me chills. Mourning again for what could have been.
I love this, and it made me absolutely angry again for this two fucks that gave us the most disappointing conclusion to a story that I loved deeply. it could have been so much more. nicolaj was awesome
As much as everyone (including me) shits on AI, it brings me great peace that within my lifetime basement fanfic hobbiests will be able to generate this scene/episode with HBO quality, indistinguishable as a fake. I will actually get to see this.
That and my wish to see an Episode of star trek TNG where data gets sent to 1992 and has to save the community center by teaching Biggie and 2Pac the true meaning of Christmas
If an AI like that ever exists the first thing I’m asking for is a second season of Firefly
The whole season turned into half arsed fan fiction.
I wouldn’t even call it fan fiction as the writers were seemingly not even fans of the show. It was like a fan hired someone who had never seen the show and hated everything about it to write it.
I call that the Netflix live-action anime treatment.
Oh they hired 343i to write it? That actually makes sense.
Nah, they did kill a bunch of people. Remember the useless Dothraki cavalry charge? Straight up substracted the Dothraki army from the political equation, and removing several thematics from the narrative in the same blow. What would’ve become of the Dothraki after the war, had they survived? Would Kingslanding have kept a military continent of Dothraki, the way the Byzantines incorporated Huns in their army? Would they have had a political role in this new order? Would they have faced racism? Or would they have returned to the Steppe, and if so, would they have ruled it as an independent land or remained clients of Daenerys? And how would they have reacted to her death? So many questions that needn’t be addressed thanks to the white walkers.
Remember the useless Dothraki cavalry charge?
I remember a very dark screen and a bunch of yelling and then nothing. I assume that’s what you’re talking about.
A lot of people shit on the final season, and rightly so. The ending didn’t fit the entire narrative of Ice and Fire, Arya’s training was basically useless, Daenerys’s ending didn’t make sense
I’m yet to hear of how anyone would rewrite the final season to be good, or where the plot points are all resolved. You would need to change a LOT, particularly how you conclude with the final battle AFTER Kings Landing is taken/won. There’s a few novel ideas there:
- Bran warging into a dragon
- The Night King ignoring the North and going to war with Kings Landing
- Arya using her skills at some point to attack/kill Cersei
- Jamie’s redemption, and possible pairing with Brienne, to leave Cersei alone and unhinged. Perhaps even Jamie killing Cersei?
- The Night King being such a credible threat that he actually takes over Westeros and the final battle being waged in Essos, or with the full “world” involved
- Jon ascending to the throne, as prophesied - but leaving the throne and escaping north
- Westeros just generally being destroyed and no one winning. " The dragons siding with Jon, leading to Daenerys’s madness
- Bran slowly turning into the new Night King
So many avenues, but I’m yet to read a coherent plan.
My main gripe with is with the final episode, the final ,“bran should be king” happy ending. Like come on. It’s so counter to the rest of the show. They just rushed the cleanup so badly.
“bran should be king”
Didn’t you hear, who had a better story? Who? Totally king material.
My headcanon is Bran warged into the writers and made them do that
They tried so hard to subvert expectations that they fucking obliterated everyone’s character arcs.
I can understand saying it was rushed and poorly done, but the trained assassin, who serves the god of death, absolutely should have been the one to kill the night king. No one has a bigger beef with death than the undead army master.
Jon came back to kill Danny and take the throne and restore what passes for peace.
The Three Eyed Raven took it from Jon.
None of this was especially well laid out or planned or paced correctly, but it’s the most Game of Thrones path they could’ve taken.
I mean, it was Martin’s plan, but the writers took the most stupid and lazy routes to get there.
I honestly think he hasn’t finished the books because he’s got no idea himself how to actually end it. And after the backlash the show got, he’s now pretty sure it shouldn’t end like that…
It’s worse than that: there does not exist a good way to end it. He started too many plot threads and now it’s impossible to end them all in a satisfying way.
His two main assistants also fucked off and then wrote The Expanse series of books. Style is surprisingly similar to GoT, and makes me wonder how much was George and how much was them…
Then The Expanse got made into a show and thems two fucked off for good.
IMO his assistants did a lotmof the heavy lifting, and there was too much left to tie off with GoT so he just gave up.
It’s not about who killed the night king, it’s about when he died. If the opening scene of the show is about the white walkers coming and killing everyone, that should be the final scene of the show. Imagine return of the Jedi beginning with killing off Darth Vader, the main villain that the protagonists have been fighting against the entire time, and then the rest of the movie is Luke trying to defeat Jabba. Or if frodo got the ring to Mt Doom and then they still had to defeat saruman
They should have lost the battle in winterfell, retreated to kings landing, then had a final battle against the night King and cersei all in one major battle. It truly doesn’t matter who kills the night King, just that he is the last antagonist to die since he was the first one to be introduced. It’s about closing plot threads in the order that you open them.
Should I have put the part about being poorly paced, planned, and executed in bigger text or something?
That’s pretty general though. I’m trying to pinpoint the issue as the show not properly nesting plot threads.
I’m so glad I never watched the last season. “Oh, but what about…” Don’t care. I’ll read the book eventually. When they ran out of material from the books it became cartoonish.
I’ll read the book eventually.
Get a load of Mr Optimism over here!
I’ll read the book eventually.
Oh you sweet summer child
Yeah I saw how bad the penultimate season was and could tell I’d regret it. So I just came up with my own headcanon for how things end and don’t worry about it.
I kinda wonder if the reaction to the ending killed his motivation to finish it. Id buy that explanation.
Two books left, so far. Previous was released over a decade ago. I think a next book is possible, but two?
I bought the last one on release date, and I have no clue where each character is right now. I’m not reading the books again, and I don’t think a summary will make me care again.
Yeah I’ve given up any interest. If another book comes out, there’s absolutely no reason for me to read it. Like you said, the last book is over 10 years old. So you’d have to re-read the entire series to catch up. Then you’d read the new book, only to be confronted with the same problem for the final book. I ain’t doing this whole thing again in another decade!
At this point, he’d have to release both books at once for me to have any interest in reading them again. And we all know that ain’t happening.
Yeah those books are never coming out. The absolute best time for them to come out was when the show was still in its prime. But universally people hated how the show ended, it’s dropped out of pop culture completely, season 8 has become a verb much like jumping the shark, and given how long between the books interest says waned. There are other books, there are other authors, and there’s just generally other things to do.
