No it’s more likely that they are an actual leftist. China and Ruzzia are (and the SU was!) fascist hellholes that have nothing to do with socialism and/or communism besides screaming it of the windows all the time.
And people who delude themselves to believe something else are really annoying…
I agree in spirit! However the soviet union was neither capitalist nor communist, and fascism is a form of capitalism which means the soviet union wasn’t fascist, but rather something else entirely.
I’m willing to agree partially: AFAIK the usual classification of the economic system of the SU is “state capitalism” which is indeed distinct from capitalism and socialism and I’m even willing to grant it that, if well executed (in the SU it mostly wasn’t) it has the potential to be better than capitalism in a few aspects.
That said, I agree about the notion that fascism is a form of capitalism: The two are often associated with each other, but at the end of the day quite distinct and orthogoanl systems. Fascism is about having a powerful leader who oppresses the population and the SU very much had that in an almost textbook-manner with Stalin, though I will also acknowledge that there were of course detals in hwo it differed from say Naziism in Germany at the same time.
Fascism is by definition a form of capitalism :P As defined by Mussolini back then and by political scientists today. It’s not just about dictatorship, but about the relationship between private businesses and the state.
If this was memes@lemmy.ml you would’ve been banned for this comment
When you assume anyone complaining about .ml and Hexbear must be a liberal
There’s a massive overlap between being anti-Marx and being liberal. Doesn’t mean all anti-Marxists are liberals, but most are.
I consider myself conservative.
I’ll let myself out before this comment thread explodes
Conservatives fall under the umbrella of liberalism, generally.
Sometimes (just don’t tell them that)
It’s statistically likely, as is their inability to find the block button.
No it’s more likely that they are an actual leftist. China and Ruzzia are (and the SU was!) fascist hellholes that have nothing to do with socialism and/or communism besides screaming it of the windows all the time.
And people who delude themselves to believe something else are really annoying…
I agree in spirit! However the soviet union was neither capitalist nor communist, and fascism is a form of capitalism which means the soviet union wasn’t fascist, but rather something else entirely.
I’m willing to agree partially: AFAIK the usual classification of the economic system of the SU is “state capitalism” which is indeed distinct from capitalism and socialism and I’m even willing to grant it that, if well executed (in the SU it mostly wasn’t) it has the potential to be better than capitalism in a few aspects.
That said, I agree about the notion that fascism is a form of capitalism: The two are often associated with each other, but at the end of the day quite distinct and orthogoanl systems. Fascism is about having a powerful leader who oppresses the population and the SU very much had that in an almost textbook-manner with Stalin, though I will also acknowledge that there were of course detals in hwo it differed from say Naziism in Germany at the same time.
Fascism is by definition a form of capitalism :P As defined by Mussolini back then and by political scientists today. It’s not just about dictatorship, but about the relationship between private businesses and the state.
Fun fact: blocking a community doesn’t stop you from mentioning them in a joking manner elsewhere!
Tankies are authoritarians and therefore cannot call themselves socialist
For clarity, comtemporaries of Marx and Engels also called them authoritarian, hence On Authority.