Well, you and similar people know the world is fucked up, but there’s a lot more people out there swimming in the ignorance of simply believing everything is fine or that the people raising problems are catastrophising and that everything will somehow work out.
Those people will keep having kids even if basically every sign pointed to the certainty of that kid’s life ending early during some kind of traumatic existential struggle.
There’s just a percentage of society who simply don’t put in much thought beyond their immediate existence and future. That’s almost definitely bad in the grand scheme of things, but I guess on the flip side, they potentially live happier lives in ignorance before getting blipped out of existence.
Don’t confuse lack of an inner monologue with not thinking or not thinking critically. I lack a monologue when not doing verbal tasks, but I think visually/spacially/relationally instead for other tasks or when in rest or in the experience of my own consciousness. I pinky swear I’m not a philosophical zombie during that time:)
i have 1 until i learnt not everyone has one. what impact are there if one doesn’t have an inner monologue or voice in their heads…sans the schizophrenics
For god’s sake – people who don’t hear their own voice in their own head are “just moving from one impulse to another”? People require an inner monologue, as opposed to seeing things in their imagination or what have you, in order to be capable of conscious thought? Are we seriously at the point where we’re saying “anyone who doesn’t experience the world the same way I do is no better than an animal”?
Ah, indeed. I was mixing up doomer with prepper. Regardless, you don’t have to be a doomer to think the world is shit. You can be hopeful that things will change, but not want to submit an innocent person on pure hope that things will improve.
The “innocent person on pure hope that things will improve” is 100% doomerism.
I live in a box of 6 flats. 4 of the people have kids, the other guy is renting to have a place to come back to when they return from working abroad. All of the flats at 40m2, people earning a fraction of a salary people in the US do, when the cost of living is maybe 80% of the US. Yet nobody is starving, the kids have a great life, parents are happy. Life goes on as it always has, with couples marrying, having kids, growing old together. This isn’t something that’s somehow unique to here, happens everywhere.
If you want kids, you can get them, support them and give them a bright future. If you don’t want them, fine, just don’t say you can’t have children because the world sucks.
Also, *gestures wildly around themself* look at the state the world is in. Which sane person would want to bring a child into this fucked up world?
Well, you and similar people know the world is fucked up, but there’s a lot more people out there swimming in the ignorance of simply believing everything is fine or that the people raising problems are catastrophising and that everything will somehow work out.
Those people will keep having kids even if basically every sign pointed to the certainty of that kid’s life ending early during some kind of traumatic existential struggle.
There’s just a percentage of society who simply don’t put in much thought beyond their immediate existence and future. That’s almost definitely bad in the grand scheme of things, but I guess on the flip side, they potentially live happier lives in ignorance before getting blipped out of existence.
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I mean, 50% of humanity doesn’t have an inner monologue- they’re essentially just moving from one impulse to another.
Half of everyone. There’s no chance for this species without radical change.
Don’t confuse lack of an inner monologue with not thinking or not thinking critically. I lack a monologue when not doing verbal tasks, but I think visually/spacially/relationally instead for other tasks or when in rest or in the experience of my own consciousness. I pinky swear I’m not a philosophical zombie during that time:)
I still think there’s no help for humanity without radical change, lol.
We’re socially still cave-people, just with advanced technology. Technology that is increasingly a mystery even to its Users.
Ultimately, our species is more likely to fall back on our tribalism and devolve into religious ravings than to endure to something more enlightened.
What’s the deal with inner monologue??
i have 1 until i learnt not everyone has one. what impact are there if one doesn’t have an inner monologue or voice in their heads…sans the schizophrenics
What?
If you’re talking about aphantasia that’s less than 5% of the population, not half
Approximately 30% to 50% of people regularly experience an inner monologue, while the remaining 50% to 70% do not have a talkative brain.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/intersections/202304/inner-monologues-what-are-they-and-whos-having-them
https://www.bustle.com/wellness/does-everyone-have-an-internal-monologue
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/inner-voice.htm
I distinctly remember developing one when I was around 8. I wanted it then, but it hasn’t shut up since
For god’s sake – people who don’t hear their own voice in their own head are “just moving from one impulse to another”? People require an inner monologue, as opposed to seeing things in their imagination or what have you, in order to be capable of conscious thought? Are we seriously at the point where we’re saying “anyone who doesn’t experience the world the same way I do is no better than an animal”?
A lot of people that aren’t doomers.
I don’t own a house with fortified bunker and a literal ton of food. Can’t buy a house to begin with. Being a doomer is for the rich.
Why do you need a house, a bunker? Being a doomer is being pessimistic about global problems, not prepping for the apocalypse.
Ah, indeed. I was mixing up doomer with prepper. Regardless, you don’t have to be a doomer to think the world is shit. You can be hopeful that things will change, but not want to submit an innocent person on pure hope that things will improve.
The “innocent person on pure hope that things will improve” is 100% doomerism.
I live in a box of 6 flats. 4 of the people have kids, the other guy is renting to have a place to come back to when they return from working abroad. All of the flats at 40m2, people earning a fraction of a salary people in the US do, when the cost of living is maybe 80% of the US. Yet nobody is starving, the kids have a great life, parents are happy. Life goes on as it always has, with couples marrying, having kids, growing old together. This isn’t something that’s somehow unique to here, happens everywhere.
If you want kids, you can get them, support them and give them a bright future. If you don’t want them, fine, just don’t say you can’t have children because the world sucks.
Lol, OK breeder.
Cringe.
People say cringe still?
lol ok. You’re looking at everything and then arguing that the people who notice things are bad.