No, not every revolution is bad. Violence is not always bad. Things are, however, moving in the direction I want. I don’t expect to have a laterally managed society within my life time, and I don’t believe that murdering people, because I assert I am right, is good. Every time this is brought up the slave revolts of Haiti, the French revolution, etc. are the immediate response. Please, tell me that you believe the conditions I am in are validly comparable to those. Fact is, I am armed, I have a good understanding of my arms, and I have practice with them. I also would never claim to be able to deal with a civil war scenario, I won’t know how I will do with that until it happens. Also, the results of those revolutions is arguable with whether or not it actually made things better. In France they went into the terrors, to a marshal empire, then the changes that had been working in the background, since before the revolution, are what lead to the freedom from Monarchy. Things like the massive change in economic politics, infrastructure technology, etc. are what really allowed them to cut the autocracy off. With Haiti, while I am sure gains in ethnic autonomy are nice, it’s not exactly been the greatest thing either. And yes, I am aware of foreign interference, especially the US, etc. and how that all plays into it. Do I think it was worth it? With this one, yes, my personal opinion is yes. Then again, I value that type of autonomy over most things. There are many that disagree to some degree, or another.
On your point with China, fair enough. I read into it as you thinking I was a supporter of the capitalist system, just some liberal, I guess. Taking that I was mirroring the concept that if I preferred the system I was in, thus I was supporting it, then your endorsement of China was a sentiment of support for that system. I still don’t agree with you, but that’s whatever.
I am not arguing for everyone to ask nicely for compliance. I am saying that things are slowly going towards the things I want by means of political activism, and putting your money were your mouth is. If this comes to a impasse, that will be the time for violence. If the regressives do take the government, violence. However I am not a Haitian slave. I am acutely aware of how these industries work. I have nearly a decade of professional expertise in analyzing the corrections system. I have worked with politicians, in back office situations, on these things. We moved one of the largest state, and local, corrections systems to a far more rehabilitation, record ablative, and recidivism reductionist, state of affairs. I have worked, voluntarily, to make several changes in legislation, around healthcare, in two states. I was born with some serious medical issues, ones that cause nebulous issues, but the kind where idiots still like think “oh it can’t be that bad!” bullshit. So I have a personal stake in this, and I have used my experience with analysis, and presenting it to government reps, and moving them to my side. I am no expert, really, though I guess the stuff I was specifically doing for the DOC is expertise… The largest blockade to this change has not been the politicians, or the corporations, or the judges, DAs, or police unions. It is the general population. There is a significant amount of the population that gets a vicarious sexual-like response to seeing “others” “get what is coming to them”. This constituency is more likely to vote than the general population, so they get placated, otherwise it is more difficult to get re-elected. This sentiment has lost a lot of ground once the drug epidemic hit the middle to upper class, white, population. A lot changed when it came to the incarceration of white kids, from well to do families. Reasoning sucks, just more racism/classism, but the results are genuinely making things better.
So, what are your plans to create this parallel system you will disrupt society with? What are you currently doing to create this?
My point is that these incremental local changes cannot scale to a national level, and as Capitalism decays, fascism rises unless Leftists organize.
So, what are your plans to create this parallel system you will disrupt society with? What are you currently doing to create this?
Join an org and help build up an alternative. I am shopping around for good, non-problematic local branches of national orgs, which is difficult, plus I do not want to risk my job finding out I am a member of a Communist group, so privacy and security is an extreme concern of mine, or else I lose my income. The going is slow personally in this direction.
No, not every revolution is bad. Violence is not always bad. Things are, however, moving in the direction I want. I don’t expect to have a laterally managed society within my life time, and I don’t believe that murdering people, because I assert I am right, is good. Every time this is brought up the slave revolts of Haiti, the French revolution, etc. are the immediate response. Please, tell me that you believe the conditions I am in are validly comparable to those. Fact is, I am armed, I have a good understanding of my arms, and I have practice with them. I also would never claim to be able to deal with a civil war scenario, I won’t know how I will do with that until it happens. Also, the results of those revolutions is arguable with whether or not it actually made things better. In France they went into the terrors, to a marshal empire, then the changes that had been working in the background, since before the revolution, are what lead to the freedom from Monarchy. Things like the massive change in economic politics, infrastructure technology, etc. are what really allowed them to cut the autocracy off. With Haiti, while I am sure gains in ethnic autonomy are nice, it’s not exactly been the greatest thing either. And yes, I am aware of foreign interference, especially the US, etc. and how that all plays into it. Do I think it was worth it? With this one, yes, my personal opinion is yes. Then again, I value that type of autonomy over most things. There are many that disagree to some degree, or another.
On your point with China, fair enough. I read into it as you thinking I was a supporter of the capitalist system, just some liberal, I guess. Taking that I was mirroring the concept that if I preferred the system I was in, thus I was supporting it, then your endorsement of China was a sentiment of support for that system. I still don’t agree with you, but that’s whatever.
I am not arguing for everyone to ask nicely for compliance. I am saying that things are slowly going towards the things I want by means of political activism, and putting your money were your mouth is. If this comes to a impasse, that will be the time for violence. If the regressives do take the government, violence. However I am not a Haitian slave. I am acutely aware of how these industries work. I have nearly a decade of professional expertise in analyzing the corrections system. I have worked with politicians, in back office situations, on these things. We moved one of the largest state, and local, corrections systems to a far more rehabilitation, record ablative, and recidivism reductionist, state of affairs. I have worked, voluntarily, to make several changes in legislation, around healthcare, in two states. I was born with some serious medical issues, ones that cause nebulous issues, but the kind where idiots still like think “oh it can’t be that bad!” bullshit. So I have a personal stake in this, and I have used my experience with analysis, and presenting it to government reps, and moving them to my side. I am no expert, really, though I guess the stuff I was specifically doing for the DOC is expertise… The largest blockade to this change has not been the politicians, or the corporations, or the judges, DAs, or police unions. It is the general population. There is a significant amount of the population that gets a vicarious sexual-like response to seeing “others” “get what is coming to them”. This constituency is more likely to vote than the general population, so they get placated, otherwise it is more difficult to get re-elected. This sentiment has lost a lot of ground once the drug epidemic hit the middle to upper class, white, population. A lot changed when it came to the incarceration of white kids, from well to do families. Reasoning sucks, just more racism/classism, but the results are genuinely making things better.
So, what are your plans to create this parallel system you will disrupt society with? What are you currently doing to create this?
My point is that these incremental local changes cannot scale to a national level, and as Capitalism decays, fascism rises unless Leftists organize.
Join an org and help build up an alternative. I am shopping around for good, non-problematic local branches of national orgs, which is difficult, plus I do not want to risk my job finding out I am a member of a Communist group, so privacy and security is an extreme concern of mine, or else I lose my income. The going is slow personally in this direction.