The thing that annoys me the most is how it cares about whitespace/carriage returns. I remember back in college when I was taking a CS class, learning Python and writing the Code on a Windows PC, emailing it to myself, and then attempting to run the code on Linux. Before I learned about the carriage return conversions, I remember having to rewrite about 75 lines of code before I got it to run. 🤬

“Please help exonerate us! We totally had the right to shoot someone because they didn’t pay $3.50!”

Or Google/Reddit/Meta.

I’m originally from NJ and whenever I go back home I forget how much the temperature drops up there during the summer, even though the humidity stays the same (or increases drastically). It’ll be 85-90 during the day but 65-70 at night with 90% humidity, which just makes it feel colder. Here in Miami the temperature drops like 5 degrees when the sun goes down and the humidity stays the same.

Come down here during the late fall/winter and it’s great. It feels like a nice spring day. I’m originally from NJ and it always makes me laugh when it’s like January and I see people walking around with coats on and I’m walking around in shorts and a T-shirt. I remember one day in December after my dance class I walked outside with a few people and said “damn, it feels great out here” and the girl gave me the “WTF is wrong with you?” look because she was freezing 😂

Facts. I take between 2 and 4 showers a day (most are just to wash the dried sweat off, no soap necessary unless I reek).

I’m originally from South Jersey where it gets humid as fuck for about two months out of the year with the occasional reprieve, so I’m used to it being hot as fuck. Before I moved down here, my friend and I spent 2 weeks down here in South Florida in August to see if I could stand it at its worst. I lasted a day wearing my typical summer clothes (khaki shorts and a cotton T-shirt, I’m a dude). The rest of the time was spent freeballing in basketball shorts and three tank tops that I bought and was still drenched every day.

I’ve been down here since October and freeballing in basketball shorts (or linen shorts) and wearing mesh or linen shirts are the only things I wear outside between May and October. Two days ago I went outside for a 10 minute walk and was drenched within a few minutes. Yesterday I went out for a long walk and before I went out I soaked a mesh T-shirt in cold water to see if it would help keep me cool. It didn’t.

Yeah, it’s just blazing hot there but at least when the sun goes away you get some relief, the humidity sticks around even at night haha I’m originally from South Jersey where the humidity is just as bad for about 2 months out of the year, so I’m used to it, but at least there’s the occasional reprieve up there. Here, it’s just relentlessly humid. At least I live right next to Biscayne Bay and there’s always a 10-20 mph breeze, so it’s not just still humidity like it is back home in NJ. Both places are essentially built on swamps. If you look at a map of South Florida it’s literally just the east and west coast that are populated (spanning maybe 20-30 miles inland) with the entire center taken up by the Everglades.

I live in a new apartment building and I forgot to turn on my AC last night (thanks Ambien!), when I woke up it was 74 in my apartment but 70% humidity 🥵 I’ve never seen it below 50% in here, even in January or February when the temp drops down to the 70s. I’ve had my dehumidifier running for about 1.5 hours and it’s 57% in here now. It’s 12:30 PM right now and it’s 70% RH with a 76 degree dew point and a temp of 88F, feels like 100F.

“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!”

I’m not a software dev, but I’d imagine that the codebase could definitely be reduced once most things are converted to Rust. From what I’ve heard, the kernel is a huge mess of spaghetti code that most people don’t want to touch, for the fear of going insane in the process 😂

I’m not a software dev (I’m a SysEng), and have never touched Rust (I’ve looked at the Rust source code and it scares me haha), but I know a fair amount of Go, and even the Go compiler is a pain in the ass occasionally. I’ve “mother fucked” it so many times.

I agree. C isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, but if we don’t start modernizing the kernel now we could end up with a future like the US government is in where all critical systems run on COBOL code and no one wants to touch it for the fear of breaking everything.

I’m not sure if it was in my above post or not, but the article said we should start modernizing the kernel now before someone does to Linux what Linux did to Unix.

Redox OS already exists and is functional (meaning it boots and has a GUI, but it’s lacking in various aspects), from what I understand it’s pretty much Linux/Unix rewritten entirely in Rust and looks pretty promising. In 5 or so years it could be a competitor with BSD and then overtake Linux once it has a proven track record.

Yeah it is a monumental task, but it’s also the one with the least push back. I don’t mean start from scratch, but convert the C code to Rust in a dev branch or something and release a Linux-Rust kernel image.

Almost all real-world software development is like this. That’s what we do.

I’m aware, I’ve written my own software even though I’m a SysEng, all I’m saying is that it’s not an easy process with a potential for disaster. Just look at CrowdStrike (not saying that they were attempting to switch languages but just the scale of the fuck up and the fallout that it caused), we don’t want that to happen with Linux.

I’m not rejecting it, I’m just saying that it’s very difficult to completely change the code of a critical piece of software. The long-term goal is for Rust to overtake C in the kernel (from what I understand, I’m a System Engineer, not a software dev. I know Go, not Rust) due it being memory-safe and about 30 years newer. Critical code gets left untouched (a lot of the time) because no one wants to be the one that breaks shit (and get bitched out by Linus 😂) so I’m sure there is tons of code from the early 90s that could be made better with a newer language like Rust, but it’s not as mature as C right now so that’s not going to happen for a while, if at all.

Ah, but I still agree with the C devs, it creates unnecessary headaches for them. Also, old habits die hard.

I view it as the same way ZFS is supported: Linus and Greg KH are like “you can maintain it, but we don’t give a shit about it, and if what we do breaks ZFS support, well too bad.”

Me and at least two more of my coworkers (we got laid off at the same time) weren’t software devs, we’re Linux Sys Admins/Engineers. No one is safe.

with layoffs low

🤣🤣🤣 Tell that to the million or so tech workers that have been laid off en massé the past year! My friend’s friend was a Senior Software Developer at Oracle for years and just got laid off a few days ago. Disney laid me off last year and I’m still looking for a job.

Meanwhile in Miami it’s a low of 82 and a high of 89, with a feels like of 100 everyday because of 80% + humidity until the end of October. My apartment is in a newer building and is well insulated. I forgot to turn on my AC two nights ago before I passed out for the night. When I woke up around 10 AM it was 71% humidity in my apartment 🥵 I walked around outside for about 10-15 minutes yesterday in basketball shorts and a light T-shirt and was dripping in sweat.

I didn’t hear a single thing about this game until literally right now.

Sounds like Miami, every day I look at the temperature and it’s like 82-90, feels like 100. Literally every day since like late May/early June, the weather report says “oppressive humidity, extreme caution” since it hangs around 70-85% with a dew point in the mid 70s. This isnt event record breaking either. Whenever the humidity drops down to like 60% and the temp is in the low 80s I’m like “it’s actually cool out for once” even though the real feel is like 92.

It’s been cloudy and rainy for like the past two weeks, so at least the pool is back to a cool/comfortable temperature and not like bathwater every day.

part of the problem is that old-time kernel developers are used to C and don’t know Rust," Torvalds said. “They’re not exactly excited about having to learn a new language that is, in some respects, very different. So there’s been some pushback on Rust.”

Linus hit the nail on the head. If you’ve been a Kernel dev for a decade or more, and have spent decades learning the ins and outs of C, why would you want to switch to something that is similar, but different in a lot of ways, just because a small subset of devs think it’s the best way forward? Let them handle Rust and the majority of devs will keep using C, even though Rust is objectively better.

As one of the other quotes suggested: fork the kernel project and rewrite it entirely in Rust, that way there isn’t any push back from the C devs. Replacing C with Rust in the upstream kernel is akin to replacing the engine in a car while it’s running or being used every day.