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Ah, that’s a convincing point, but I’ve always felt my answer actually opens up the door for important discussions like :

-Historical // between slavery and prisons -Partial rebuttal of the question itself, or rather, its framing of the issue, my underlining it’s completely legitimate to advocate for the abolition of something without having a plug’n’play replacement for it

-Usually, people will follow up by highlighting cases of pedophiles and rapists, which could further be used to frame the discussion with them : who are we talking about?

-If I’m in a bad mood, I’ll also ask people : “My brother in Christ, weren’t there folks around who thought slavery was indeed created to solve an actual problem?”

But yeah, that’s only the first part of my answer, then we’ll move to the more grounded post-carceral society discussion.

Well, I can try to clarify here. Some prison abolitionist, activist or scholars, do indeed think there will be a residual proportion on crime that will necessitate kind of spatial segregationi, and, for some, being locked up for a time.

And it’s not necessarily conflicting with the abolitionist motto. They say : Well, prisons are buildings, but mostly, they are a social and historical function (punishing the poor, the political opposition, etc.). If we abolish that and there are like 3000 people in prison nationwide, the logic of stockpiling inmates will be gone. Maybe it will be possible to actually do something for them. The gap in punishment between the poor and the rich will be reduced if not gone.

Nevermind the building. If their historical function is gone, prisons are gone.

Ah. I’m not so comfortable with English but yeah, that was what I meant indeed!

That’s always my first answer indeed. "Well, I’m going to answer your question but first, just think about the abolition of legal slavery a while ago. What would you have thought about someone who would object : “yeah, but what will we replace slavery with ?”.

Well, that would reduce unemployment.

Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed answer. I agree with you about almost everything.

You seem to be pretty up voted on a regular basis except a few comments. In my humble opinion, most of them would not be explained by a specific reddit hive mind but rather classic moral panics. I mean, I’ve been campaigning my whole life for prison reform/abolition and that’s the typical kind of reactions I’ve got… irl. I suppose that’s just what you usually get when saying something which deviates from a specific state of public opinion.

Not trying to play ackshually, but there doesn’t seem to be anything wrong with your posts/comments, imo.

Can we get a sample of these “unpopular opinions”?

Isn’t the bottom one Mike Patton?!

The Edukators!

IMDB

Also, quite interestingly, the accurate one should include “depression”.

Hahaha, superb… owl… superbowl… superb! owl! (for the 5th time, I can’t get over this community name)

Also,that owl is… quite superb indeed.

(leaves laughing, you can hear “…superbowl!” as the door closes)

Tbh, Lemmy leaning strongly to the left is a big plus for me. I mean, it’s easy to find right leaning or centrist communities everywhere. A clearly left leaning space is a gem I’m happy to help preserve and nurture. I’m saying that without offense in mind. But I feel the majority of social networks / boards / microblogging sites lean farther to the right than Lemmy.

And both of them indeed!

I just love it here. But I also know that while most communities are really nice, we rely a lot on two (2) individuals who provide a sizeable part of Lemmy’s content (Picard and PugJesus). We should all try to do our part!

Well, I can’t say I’m 100% sure it’s RPGMaker, but it has the tag on steam and the art styles is… quite matching ?

Lego deez nuts ha gottem

Hmm. Sorry bout that. What were we talking about?

I come from bizarre family, with an upper class father and a mother who grew up in extreme poverty, experienced wealth and now lives in poverty again after divorce.

Although most of my friends are lower middle class, two of my closest friends are homeless asylum seekers and two are doctors, one of which is a neurosurgeon. Some others are unemployed or upper middle class. One of my closest friends is so wealthy I can’t even fathom it.

I don’t have dozens of friends, as my writing could imply. We’re talking 15 persons tops. So there’s indeed a little diversity in there.

And frankly? It’s exhausting and often infuriating. Switching is complicated. But hey, I won’t complain. At least I have close ones. I know some people want for friendship (e.g. my gf).

Wb!