The Miracle of Life?

That’s a limerick conservative parents tell themselves to feel better about their rebellious kids.

And not what I’m talking about at all.

As a serious answer, I’d guess Lemmy skews younger. Too many idealists here to think the average user base has the wisdom that comes from experience.

Sorry, younglings. You’ll know when you get older: the long view clearly demonstrates optimism is a lie. History is a corkscrew. Progress is made, but only through endless repetitions of past mistakes.

Trump voters are stupid and have poor memories.

Except for the ones who are just plain evil.

Because smart people question each other and disagree a lot. Dumb people are sheep and follow the loudest, most confident voice in the room.

What upset me the most is that Harris used Hilary’s election plan verbatim.

She absolutely did not. Hillary leaned into the gender card hardcore. She had her supporters wearing t-shirts saying “I’m with her” with an arrow sign. She said “I’m not saying you should vote for me because I’m a woman, you should vote for me because of my qualifications. But one of my qualifications is…I’M A WOMAN!!!”

Kamala didn’t lean into any of this demographics, gender war trash. She (wisely) followed Barack Obama’s playbook of leaving the identify politics crap at the door. She lost for other reasons. Hillary alienated voters by leaning too hard into identity politics. Kamala ran a much better campaign than Hillary. They are not the same. Why Kamala lost will be debated for some time at least, but it will not be concluded reasonably that she lost for the same reasons Hillary lost in 2016. I know people want to conclude that women just can’t get elected, but we haven’t yet had a female candidate that ran a great campaign. As someone who wants our first female president, I have to reluctantly admit that we’ve been underserved by our female politicians thus far. I have high hopes for AOC in the future, but we’ll have to wait and see how that plays out. I don’t actually think Kamala did anything wrong in her campaign; I just think she was working against the legacy set by her predecessor, and it was too much. That, and too many American voters are stupid, ignorant, misguided voters. And, probably, some Pro-Palestinian voters had their heads up their asses.

This asshat is a professional troll, people, please don’t pay any attention to them.

As someone who voted for Harris? Nothing. Nothing related to the question in this thread at least.

As someone who paints an entire national population with the same broad brush though, what the bigoted fuck is wrong with you?

Ah. TIL.

But…by your own admission, life did give us lemons. We just made more lemony.

That’s right, bringing race, gender, and other demographic variables into it totally makes your argument stronger. It definitely doesn’t expose your own prejudices at all, no siree.

This has happened plenty of times in other countries. To think it can’t happen here is what is irrational.

I took this attitude the first time Trump was elected, and boy was I wrong. Not this time. Now, I’m seriously considering what his options might be for eliminating the election in 2028. He needs to clean the military brass of people disloyal to him, which he can easily do as Commander in Chief. Once he’s got a loyal military, there’s virtually nothing he can’t do; and this SCOTUS will let him do anything he wants, so long as it aligns with the view of Evangelical Christians, who have been wanting a theocracy for decades. He can conjure the specter of “Democrat corruption” to justify eliminating any opposition politicians as an official act, completely re-stock the FBI with loyalists to wage any legal battles he needs to make his actions seem legitimate and “official,” and arrest any problematic judges under the same “corruption” myth so that he can then replace them with loyalists.

Honestly, we’ve seen this playbook before in countries that are now dictatorships and Trump has already made it quite clear he wants to be a dictator. There is absolutely no reason to be convinced this will not happen. It might not happen, but there’s no reason to think definitely will not.

I have a Mexican coworker who voted for Trump over a single issue: he believes Trump pulled the FBI and CIA out of Mexico, which stopped them selling guns to the cartels.

Not only is this not true, it shows that he’s voting for Trump solely for the benefit of Mexico. Honestly, to my mind, that’s not a bad reason to deport someone (which—as a citizen—he can’t be, I know).

They legitimately want Trump to deport the other illegals, not their illegals.

Artemio Muniz, chairman of the Federation of Hispanic Republicans, said he was pleased with the election outcome, but his elation was tempered because “the reality is there’s work to do."

“Now my focus is to the immigration side. Now we have a real battle on our hands, not with Trump,” Muniz said, but “we have to make sure … hard-working Mexican immigrants do not get deported.”

Fucking incredible.

Agreed. Everyone who voted for Trump is either an idiot or a monster. I think most of them fall into the former category. Every Trump voter I’ve talked to who has said they “did their own research” to inform their vote has pointed to information they got from fringe sites and outlets they were initially linked to via social media. Not one mentioned looking at Trump’s campaign website, the Wikipedia article on him, much less any of the critical articles about him in legitimate news sites. These are ignorant people with no critical thinking skills.

Ignoring female-on-male violence and shaming men who are victims of it is also structurally ingrained in our society.

It’s insane to me that these hyper-rich people care nothing for future generations. They’re dooming their own grandchildren and they don’t give a shit. All so they can have more numbers on their banking apps. It’s mind-boggling.

No, it doesn’t. I upvote every opinion on this sub that I disagree with, but will often argue with the OP anyway. Expressing an unpopular opinion on the relevant forum doesn’t mean you’re immune from having to defend it.

Why can’t Subway just give this woman the meat she paid for?