How are we gonna destroy Ted Cruz’s beard?

It’s also a fake accent. He absolutely did not talk like that earlier in his career.

Are you going to back up ANYTHING you say?

1. How does the election result in neither the Democrat or Republican nominee winning? If your 3rd party vote isn’t helping one of those two parties, there must be another possible outcome. Just give us one. One single realistic alternative outcome.

2. Assuming you can’t handle #1 (which I’m pretty sure you can’t without resorting to fantasy), how does a vote for the “right wing authoritarian” Democrat help the GOP MORE than a vote for a 3rd party when there are 2 possible outcomes?

If you can answer for either of these giant gaping holes in your logic I will be astounded. I’ll let you answer but I think I’m done with this thread. Have a good night!

If you think the GOP and the Democratic Party are equal threats that’s an opinion you are welcome to hold.

I find that view to be completely asinine and at odds with reality but you do you. That doesn’t change the end result of your actions if you don’t vote or vote 3rd party: you’re supporting the GOP.

I truly don’t care why you choose to vote the way you do. I just want you and everyone on earth to know the results of your actions, support for the GOP.

So she’s going to have to do something so publicly outrageous that it can’t be ignored

Like ignoring precedent to dismiss the case and seemingly claim that special counsels are unconstitutional?

Do Republicans really hate America this much?

Yes. Absolutely. They despise all of the best aspects of America and longingly cherish our worst histories.

They want to punish Democrats more than they want to stop the GOP. These people are willing to let Trump erase Gaza in order to say “we told you so!” to the Democrats. They don’t give a shit how many more people are harmed as long as they feel like they stuck it to somebody in the voting booth.

"What are you talking about? I’m just innocently posting things I find interesting. How dare you assume my intentions!

Now I’ll continue doing the exact same thing and act surprised every time I’m called out."

There ya go OP. Saved you some time. We know you’re incredibly busy.

You are the authority on what you do. You don’t get to ignore the results because you don’t want to take responsibility. You’ve declared your actions, I’ve explained the results.

Honestly this has gone in a circle long enough. We’re not going to get anywhere if you dont want to provide any kind of evidence/reasoning and basely accuse me of lying. I do appreciate you assisting illustrate a valuable point about how hollow the 3rd party justification is though. Have a nice day!

My USB cables exist in a quantum superposition where the orientation of the male end is only determined after I fail to plug it in on the first try.

And yet when you look at this from the perspective of voting in the general election, everyone is going to support one of them regardless. Unless you can explain how a 3rd party will realistically win the election or how the GOP winning is beneficial. Why can’t you explain that?

So again, why do you want to support the GOP over the Democrats?

Calling me out would suggest you’ve provided some evidence that I’m lying, despite just having my reasoning clearly laid out. Reasoning that you’ve provided no alternative to outside of “you’re lying”.

So where’s this call out? Explain to us how there aren’t 2 possible winners of the election in our FPTP system.

It’s a pretty simple concept and the only response is usually “not uh!”

Just so everyone else is aware, we’re now here.

You’re still ignoring the realities of FPTP voting. There is precisely one way to effectively “vote against” the GOP during the general election and you seem to be advocating against it.

Explain to me how Gaza gets better if Trump wins. Or literally any issue. Even if the loss magically created a huge shift in the Democratic leadership that echoed throughout the caucus and they go all in on every progressive policy we could possibly want. Let’s say they make Rashida Tlaib minority leader. Let’s say every single Democrat now supports a full embargo of Israel until they cease all hostilities. Lets say every Democrat now supports whatever policy you want. How does any of that help once the government is fully controlled by fascists that will literally make it impossible for the now Super Progressive Democratic Party to ever get back in power and do those things?

If your justification for supporting the GOP is that the Democrats haven’t done enough on Gaza that’s fine. I just question the logic.

I will take responsibility for enabling one of the two genocide enablers that I can choose from, yes. I am choosing to enable the one that contains a modicum of dissention from the status quo vs the one that wants to wipe Gaza from the map entirely.

Why would you want to enable the party that wants even more genocide than the Democrats do?

Either way, this dude has serious “don’t fuck with me” vibes.

Your motivations can be whatever you want. You just don’t get to absolve yourself of responsibility for the results of your actions. I think that’s a fair position.

Non/3rd party votes make it easier for the SMALLER party to win, and that happens to be the GOP here. This is just how FPTP voting works.

There are two possible outcomes, how could your actions not benefit one of the two possible winners?

I get that it feels icky, especially when someone views voting as a way to send a message or present their own moral views, but that’s not what voting is. Not in the general election at least.

You will affect the race in one of two ways regardless of what you do. You will either benefit Party A or Party B, those parties being the two largest parties, aka Democrats and Republicans.

When a 3rd party becomes larger than the Democratic or Republican party, you would be correct. That is not the case, so you’re still incorrect.

So in your opinion what makes the GOP more deserving of your support compared to the Democrats?

You are incorrect. While a vote for the GOP candidate certainly carries more weight, it doesn’t mean they don’t benefit from non/3rd party votes. That is how FPTP voting works.