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117·12 hours agoEh, I generally prefer paintings generated by an AI most of the time.
Meh. Art history - sure! Books, writing, films, music.
Paintings though are a bit more dodgy. Most of the ‘classical’ paintings (in the renaissance and baroque periods) were created through a system of patronage by monarchs, if not for a selfish ego-boost of endless royal portraiture, then as a strategic move to enhance the prestige of the monarchy to it’s neighbours.
Of course, music is often guilty of this too. Bach’s famous struggles with securing patronage for instance, but due to its more abstract nature, it is probably a better source of information about the author than a painting about the painter.
It will hardly inform you of what the people or the world was like at the time, but rather what the monarchs wanted to project, which of course is helpful too for understanding the political situation at the time, but it’s hardly an efficient way to acquire that information, nor do the ideas gained from such exploration likely to lead to concrete conclusions.
Kind of like judging a people by their government’s propaganda department commissions.
What is interesting though is the fact that AI art, and the LAION-5B dataset used to train the models is a true and earnest reflection of sorts of what images today really are, from works of art to private commissions for furries etc to plain stock photos and other corporate graphics.
It’s an interesting reality check to compare the kinds of images your mind conjures connected to an idea and the kinds of images stable diffusion produces instead, it’s revealing of one’s biases in a very unique way.
Huh? I don’t think Philosophy or History as I mentioned expands your wallet size, dafuck?
Don’t compare me to that techbro transphobe moron just because I’m offering a vaguely different opinion to yours.
Ty will check out
It’s just a painting, it’s not exactly science or history or philosophy or any knowledge that can extend one’s horizons, it’s more about a choice of mobile wallpaper, and I’m not enough of a consoomer “slob” to care about that.
AI one looks neat. Never heard of this other one.
122·21 hours agoMassive improvement
Well then you need to phrase yourself a lot better because that is not how you came off, clearly.
I don’t think anyone welters in it when they re-listen to angsty music of their youth. For me it’s just a matter of nostalgia and reminiscing.
62·22 hours agoUhm. Like this from any other computer that you may have, someone else may have, a public library may have, etc.
https://www.google.com/android/find
In general it’s very strange to not have at least a company-issued work laptop or desktop at the office if you’re an office worker, but I’m sure you could find a friend with a computer you could borrow, or go the library and use theirs.
Maybe this is culture shock because I feel like on Lemmy the average computers owned by a user is easily ~13 not counting old phones/tablets that may be ‘broken’ but could still be made to work temporarily or in a limited enough capacity to work in this use case and ofc aforementioned corpo machines.
I don’t like middle grounds in my packages, what can I say.
Docker containers are treated as immutable and disposable to me, like a boot CD, for each, I write a shell script to generate both a .conf if needed, a docker-compose.yml and run the container.
They’re plug’n’play separate parts to the rest of the OS, while packages are about integrating nicely with the rest of the OS, in a non-snowflakey, non-disruptive manner.
I also hate .conf.d folders and always deleted them. One program, one .conf.
Yeah I was also an elite™️ 14-year old, all the normal girls were into LMFAO and LOL and their Flo-Ridas and BBM (what is that? Big boob messenger? Stupid thots. I was so much smarter than them. Humph! Looks are for the shallow!) and I was into far more intellectual things, like karaokeing to ‘Somewhat Damaged’, crying at least once to every single song on Still and speeding up the virgin power walk when the guitars come in on ‘Beside You In Time’.
But then I turned 16, and I was into cloud rap, and a tad later, doom metal. I came to realize that people had varied, changing tastes that didn’t necessarily give you the right to assume so much about them if they liked something I did not, it’s not as if one cannot be objective about media at all, but moreso that using tastes to attack a person, or to assume personal traits about them, especially a group of people, seldom yields to accurate outcomes.
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It is a lesson I had to learn again when my CompSci colleagues at university didn’t cruise through classes like I did, it wasn’t because they weren’t ‘real’ ‘geeks’ like I was, and it wasn’t because they didn’t use Linux, and once more, and again and again with many different things, undoing the brainwashing of a consumption society to see the wonderful complexity of people.
I make music now, and I’ve learned to see the wonderous complexity in it too, even in stuff that’s ‘not my cup of tea’.
I can critique it, but I no longer assume so much about people, and perhaps I am taking all this far too seriously, and that’s fine, but if that applies to you, I hope you can grow up too.
^ Millennial who got bullied when they were 13 for liking Linkin Park and made it their whole personality and their life’s mission to make sure no one thinks they like it again. 🙄🥱
Unironically grow up. Those people were dicks. They’re well produced songs that are noteworthy for how well they portray teenage angst (a valid part of the human experience like any other) and connect with teenagers worldwide.
No, that’s not what is meant by shared dependencies, and I don’t use Gentoo, I use Debian.
- Compile from source
- Find alternative
- Deploy in VM/Docker
If I wanted snap, flatpak or appimages, I would use windows. Shared dependencies or death.
I will be proud of myself for the fact I didn’t notice or know
Not at all, but as an accurate representation of who felt what? Yeah it’s not the best source. Music is also specifically less so, because it’s too abstract to really be propagandistic apart from the vague aesthetic of grandiosity.
It very much is, actually.
Earnest [adjective] - resulting from or showing sincere and intense conviction.
A sincere intense conviction in gathering a generic dataset representative of the very broad concept of “images” in order to be the source from which future researchers can train a diffuser model as a proof of concept, to create patterns represented in those images out of randomised noise, driven by scientific pursuit and uncontaminated with the subjectivity of artistic taste is about as fitting for “earnest” as can be.
Remember, I wasn’t talking about only the outputs of any given model, but the dataset itself.
Yeah, the outputs definitely are, but derivative of an earnest representation of us. That makes it an interesting and unbiased account of what our images really are like.
It’s interesting to go on SD and consider an idea, a concept, and what image it conjures in your head, then proompt and see what kind of images it conjures from the model. The difference is the difference in bias. It’s an interesting reality check.
So is most human works. If anything, the randomness of noise, even by processor’s famously incapable of any such thing, is going to be far more unpredictable than the copying done by humans.
In itself though I don’t think that inherently makes either less valuable, all originality only exists as both an evolution of and in contrast to the established and accepted, and that is achieved by derivative works, perhaps even creating a genre.
If anything, part of the problem is that AI art is too original, sometimes inventing 6 fingers, or 7, the form is broken, and the idea of any image no longer resonates.
Personally I don’t. I don’t think there’s anything that makes them any more artificial than any human work.
Ultimately all are a human vision - an image generator is just a lot of fancy matrices in a file without human input, neither it nor Photoshop can make everything by themselves.
All are ultimately .jpegs, products not of some singular vision but also of the tools developed and available to the human, all are concepts so far removed from nature, labeling one artificial but not the other is splitting hairs on a head freshly and cleanly shaved by a precision engineered mass manufactured machine shipped half-way across the world in system so complex most people don’t understand it.
Oh come on now. You can hate AI without resorting to delusion or ignorance.
Not only is AI art on the rise, but even a year or two ago the tools for generating images were good enough that it’s already seeing noticeable widespread use, including in the physical world. And that’s not even touching on the strides and accomplishments in the LLM space.
I’m not writing anything off as is hopefully evident by my writing here, it’s moreso that the value of it as I see it is perhaps overestimated by yourself.