They’d just blame the Democrats anyway. Republicans thrive in dysfunction because they can convince their low info base that nothing bad is ever their fault.

The Republican party needs to have plausible deniability. In the conservative playbook, it’s okay to repeat things that they know for a fact are untrue, or to tell a lie of omission to further their agenda, because they can always walk it back at the point in time which they are receiving blowback by saying they didn’t know it wasn’t true or that they didn’t have all the facts at hand. Assuming that the lie doesn’t manifest itself into truth or that there are enough people who care enough about the real truth to bother fact checking it at all to the point where it would necessarily generate any kind of controversy.

This was Vance saying the quiet part out loud, probably by accident, and his pivot was not convincing at all.

I really don’t want Trump to get shot and killed.

I really really want Trump to live the rest of his life in constant fear and paranoia, never able to enjoy the things that he loves, isolated from the world and starving for the adulation of the people who will quickly forget him in the prison of his own making as he taps away at his phone on his own little social media bubble, grasping at being relevant again until the day he dies of natural causes and the nation lets out a wet fart of false sympathy and lowers the flags to half staff for the day while the news media puffs him up one last time before they, too, stop giving a shit and we close this chapter of our lives and our nation.

That requires Harris to beat Trump in November, so I need the fucker to stay alive until then.

Oh, it will. If they march on the capitol again, Biden will call in the national guard.

Trump didn’t do that when he was at the helm because he wanted them to succeed.

I almost want them to try again so this time an example can be made of them, since our legal system refuses to hold extremists accountable for their own actions.

Why take a bribe from John Oliver, who would immediately turn around and disclose that Thomas accepted it on his television program, when he could just go ask Daddy Harlan Crow for an identical RV and then not disclose it?

The Supreme Court is corrupt to the core. There’s an inability to hold them accountable for anything. The system of checks and balances functionally doesn’t exist for this “apolitical” branch.

It really is a scathing indictment of our country that, even if the allegations were true (they aren’t), the proposed solution to the problem Republicans have offered up is to deport all of the people back to their home country rather than just… I dunno. Making sure they have other means of feeding themselves.

What the fuck has become of our society?

The culture war has been going on for a lot longer than a decade, it’s just only in the last decade or so that it’s been amped up to 11 in terms of how aggressive it’s being fought. Conservatives are almost always on the losing side of social issues that require a culture shift. Women’s suffrage, civil rights, seatbelt laws, anti-smoking laws, gay rights… the list goes on, and the fight is never quite done for some, but they always lose in the end.

The very fact that conservatives are very pro for things like coal mining that liberals are trying to legislate away create strong reasons for some people to hold their noses and vote Republican regardless of how noxious the candidate is. When their livelihoods are literally at stake and the liberal response is “Well you should have gone to college to learn a new skill or trade” it makes sense that they are corralled right into the arms of conservatives. Economic drivers are the most powerful force behind the conservative movement right now, not culture bullshit that deep down they don’t really care about. It doesn’t help that very few people understand the relationship between “the economy” as outlined by experts and “the economy” as experienced when paying for groceries or filling up their car at the pump. It doesn’t matter that conservatives almost never deliver on their promises to fix the economy and often end up sending the nation into a recession, if bad decisions on a national scale lead to temporary relief on a local scale for some, that’s what they will remember when voting next time.

Liberals need to be doing more to bring disenfranchised voters into the fold. Educating them without being condescending or dismissive would be an excellent start. Turning down the temperature in politics is not possible without also lowering the stakes, backing off of hardline positions in the short term might be the most effective way of undermining support for terrible conservative candidates.

I have never cared so strongly about something that I felt it was appropriate to harass someone via Twitter for their views on it.

I’ll be negatively judging them, sure, but I’m not going to flood their DMs with death threats. That’s some basement dwelling troglodyte bullshit right there.

Normal people don’t hang out with klansman, we beat the shit out of them.

These people are far from normal. They’re downright weird.

I don’t normally pick at the physical appearances of people just for the sake of it, but I’ve noticed that Trump attracts a certain type of follower. Take a look at the people in the background of the next Trump rally and tell me what you see.

Those people and these people are the same. Just a bunch of trashy hillbillies. These klansmen are not the fringe supporters of Trump’s cult, they’re the ones down in the front. Like wax statues melting in the sun, their eyes glazed over enraptured as word salad pours out of Donald Trump’s mouth.

And don’t say “well that guy wearing the klan outfit is just a troll, the other people there are not associated with that!”. If you’ve got one Nazi in a bar full of people, you’re in a Nazi bar. If you’ve got one klansman at a Trump rally, you’re at a klan rally.

CNN should take some notes. That’s what moderators are supposed to do.

Report to the nearest Ordo Hereticus branch office for immediate punitive correction and summary execution.

100% this right here. The owner-class have been deluding themselves for damn near 100 years at this point that we’re not working long enough or hard enough. Henry Ford figured out exactly how much work he could squeeze out of an assembly line peon, set the requirement at exactly that point, and structured the entire operation around that 8 hours a day, five days per week quotient.

The modern CEO runs on feelings of “Well I work 12 hours per day 7 days per week, so it’s not much to ask that my rank-and-file workers put in an extra hour or two per day for the sake of the company!” while discounting or ignoring the fact that there’s a compensation gap of approximately 100x or more. Not everybody is CEO-brained enough to pull a 12 hour day every day and still have energy left over to perform basic functions in what little free time they have remaining that isn’t dedicated to sleeping.

In reality, we need to be organizing to force companies to start paying us what they owe, and if they don’t want to match our salaries with the astronomical increase in production that has taken place over the years thanks to computerization and automation, then they need to let us have more time off from work without a reduction in pay. It’s only fair.

Trump could be in a vegetative state, literally medically braindead, and Trump voters would still line up to cast their ballots for him.

That’s what happens when you have a cult of personality, it takes on a life of it’s own and becomes more of an identity than an ideology. They don’t care what Trump stands for or even if Trump stands, all that matters is that they are Trump people and they only want to associate with their kind.

For the rest of us, things like fitness and policy matter, which is why Biden was held to account and Trump will never be. There is no line that cannot be crossed.

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Mars Attacks! was very poorly marketed. I remember the commercials for it seeming tame and asking my parents to take me to the theater to see it and it fucked me up for a few good weeks. We didn’t even stay to the end, but I had nightmares about it that very same night.

What specifically? Choke? Leave it to Democrats to sneak defeat from the jaws of victory. Or do you mean hire an amateur as a political strategist? I agree, but sometimes I wonder.

So when Dick Cheney shows up to say Kamala’s right and trump is bad…

I expect Kamala to tell Cheney to fuck off at minimum

I wonder if Dems always choke in Presidential races because they have people like you as their chief strategists, where vague concepts of noble virtue and ideological purity supersede pragmatism at the most crucial moment.

I can’t possibly imagine being so privileged that I could get an endorsement from a former Republican VP during an incredibly close race and my response to him would be “fuck off”.

I hate the NPC Wojack meme with an intense passion. It’s such a strawman trap. All it does is reduce the opposition to unthinking robots so they can attacked on their credibility rather than the merits of their actual arguments.

In this case, the media isn’t saying Dick Cheney is a good guy now because he endorsed Harris. They’re saying it’s a surprising stance to take for the former VP of a Republican administration. It would be like having Al Gore come out and endorse Trump for President.

OP is 100% full of shit and more like an NPC than any of these media outlets.

I don’t have anything to add, I just want to say this is a phenomenal question, lol.