What I asked was “Is he really a cartoonishly evil stereotype” and I’m not asking if he was evil or not because he was, but I was more talking about how his hatred for America and his desire to do bad things to the US government did not come into existence randomly or out of nowhere. He did not just hate the west “For their freedom” but his susceptibility to be radicalized and indoctrinated into Islamic terrorism is because of the very real grievances inflicted upon the middle east. Your answer is right, but I think it’s focusing too much on whether or not he was evil as opposed to the characterization we see in the west where the government takes no responsibility for their own contributions to the violence.

If we look at the man himself and his radical ideology it’s about forceful conversion of the western world to Islam since he is an Islamic terrorism, but as an anti-imperialist I want to bring focus the responsibility of the US government in providing training, weapons, and public support to Bin Laden as well as creating huge injustices around the world that cause people like Bin Laden to eventually become radicalized and engage in these kinds of attacks.

The oppression of Palestine also plays a role in hatred for America and Israel, even if people then use that hatred to support ideologies such as the one that Osama advocates. Studying how the US operates around the world, I do not agree with Osama Bin laden or his actions but it is easy to see how the US regime creates so many enemies for itself which calls into question their actions and motivations.

I can’t argue with anything you are saying and I honestly agree, but I believe that continuing to propagandize leftism will be ultimately good for the masses and can cause chaos which will frustrate the regime and disrupt the society. If I can just reach people who are burning with passion to do something against the system, I can give them the knowledge they need to get ideas of what they should do. I personally hate America so I will continue spreading anti-American and anti-government ideas as well.

I am propagandizing in favor of left-wing ideas and working to reach and spread the ideology online to those who are receptive. I find the average liberal not worth trying to interact with because they are so resistant to any real leftist ideas. I am advocating things that are good for the masses but I am trying to encourage activism and other progress to be made in ways that do not require approval from the masses which are overwhelmingly liberal and resistant to authoritarianism.

I agree, but I think the liberals are too over socialized to participate in leftism in groups which makes this the next logical thesis. A high number of lone wolfs is also preferable to a single organization in regards to making suppression difficult and keeping the movement of actors difficult to predict by authorities.

In regards to the reports, I will just keep this up to explain what I actually meant since this is getting a lot of backlash and being labelled as reactionary.

We can’t know.

I really wish China was helping out militarily these days. If the US comrades had 320K Chinese fighting alongside us we would not be in such a mess today.

I am a hierarchist, because I know it’s possible to put the working class on the top, and I’m not scared to do whatever it takes to put us there.

That would be interesting. I imagine that if humans respawned after death it would feel like being knocked out with some people having amnesia or dreams between, unless it was so instant that there would be no experience between.

Do you believe that the systems we have are for the benefit of anyone besides the ruling classes of the US? Are you comfortable enough that you do not actually care about the systemic injustices people experience under such a system? Regardless, Xi and Putin are not going to bring us liberation or they would be supplying free weapons and training to revolutionaries. The only countries that still do that these days are Cuba and the DPRK, and they only do that if you go to them and seek it out on your own, since they are ideologically anti-imperialist.

And if you really do want an example of Russia wanting to cause chaos in the west, look up Black Hammer, that group that was infamous for claiming to be socialist while hating Anne Frank.

I feel that I have a vague idea about what that was like but I wish it was possible to have pictures or videos from that time so people can have a clear idea.

I see what you mean. I guess I’ve experienced similar while blacking out or being knocked out and not remembering so this helps to understand it.

I see socialism the same way people living under monarchies or feudalism saw modern republics. They might not be perfect and they might change a lot about how society operates, but they seem to be a lot more advanced and progressive than the systems the world currently has. Songbun sounds rough for some but I don’t see a socialist nation having anything resembling an actual caste system. Even if Songbun is replaced with goodness as a measure of how privileged you are in life, the society has to come to reasonable ideas about what is good and what is bad.

Kim Jong Un may have more money than the average DPRK citizen, but their economic and political systems would be very alien to us and I don’t think we could apply the same ideas to their country that develop here. If we’re talking about strictly Marxism then the DPRK does not have a bourgeois class because the means of production are owned by the state.

People that do not support socialism argue that the state becomes a new elite, but their leadership can be revoked at any time and their leaders would not get away with the nonsense that they can here in occupied turtle island.

I looked into Songbun and I guess this is what you wanted me to see? It says that there is no way for an individual to know their own songbun, so I am not sure exactly how such a system would be known to exist. The sources are literally the CIA and human rights organizations based in the United States, a country wants to destroy and enslave Korea. I don’t think DPRK is perfect, but the information we get from Korean sources gives a lot less of an unhinged idea of what that place is like.

The social classes in Marxism Leninism are the proletariat who work and the bourgeoisie who parasitically gain wealth by owning property where the proletariat must work. You move between them by owning property or losing it.

The privilege of the bourgeoisie in America is immense. They control the news, the government, elections, and even get to change or make laws if they have enough money to legally bribe the politicians AKA lobbying. The proletariat are not granted privileges.

In a socialist society, it is believed that the working class is already in control of society, and they look at America with police violence towards ethnic minorities and homelessness. They are too kind to say this to American tourists, but they find the whole of choosing to live under American systems as opposed to theirs just completely insane. Many defectors even go back after seeing the hellish conditions of capitalist Korea. The people of Korea understand that their system is designed for their social class, and the fact that all of these elections and voting doesn’t change anything anyway does not help the case for liberalism.

There is discussion in the DPRK and people are allowed to think whatever they want, but in a system where the people already control the economy, why would they advocate ayn-rand style tyranny by corporations like we have In the US? No logical person would even conceive of supporting rightism or privatizing the country’s economy in a democratic society where they are educated on class struggle and their class positions.

The DPRK only had 31 applications for asylum in other countries, which would show us that thousands more people are trying to escape America than Popular Korea, which is a nation they constantly portray as oppressive and undemocratic.

If you check on this page https://www.worlddata.info/america/usa/asylum.php, it has an entire section for refugee applications for people that applied for asylum from America. People tend to get mistreated by police, arrested for protesting (Where they end up dead in jail mysteriously) or even end up facing social and legal barriers to self expression such as gender identity or religious freedom. There are also cases of satanic people or other religious minorities being persecuted in America and this would grant them a legal basis to seek asylum somewhere else based on the Geneva refugee conventions. The real issue is whether the other country will accept people fleeing the United States considering the regime’s influence and control over the world.

I never talked about other countries, and that is outside of the scope of this post anyway.