• Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    It’s not, in fact out of the box Linux is SIGNIFICANTLY more insecure than windows.

    The thing is, hackers and hack tool makers target the largest market segment to gain the most conversions.

    Apple users used to gush about how virus proof they were until they hit decent market share, and then they got plenty of malware.

    Same thing with Linux but the real difference is you need a few decades of linux experience to fix anything in a timely manner.

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      4 months ago

      Linux is SIGNIFICANTLY more insecure than windows.

      Absolutely not true. I assume you don’t have a source for this? Besides your butt…?

      UPDATE:: They did not have a source.

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        4 months ago

        Does Linux come out of the box with A/V and firewalls?

        On second thought, you’re dismissive little aside just convinced me to excise you from my internet experience for all eternity.

        Ta…

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          4 months ago

          AV is a bandaid for the horrible way software is handled in Windows. Linux is far from perfect, but package repositories are such a step up when it comes to security.

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            4 months ago

            There is still the need to add repositories and download packages from the web every so often though. I don’t see why AV isn’t more common. It doesn’t stop the more clever and up to date attacks, but some protection from the simple things wouldn’t hurt.

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          4 months ago

          Does windows come preinstalled and preconfigured with more potentially vulnerable software on open ports?

          I personally don’t value an antivirus that much, since it can only protect you from known threats, and even then, it only matters when you’re already getting compromised - but fair point for Windows, I suspect most distros come without antivirus preinstalled and preconfigured.

          A firewall, on the other hand, only has value if you already have insecure services listening on your system - and I’m pretty sure on Windows those services aren’t gonna be blocked by the default settings. All that said though… Most Linux distros come with a firewall, something like iptables or firewalld, though not sure which ones would have it preconfigured for blocking connections by default.

          So while I would dispute both of those points as not being that notable, I feel like other arguments in favor of Linux still stand, like reduced surface area, simpler kernel code, open and auditable source.

          One big issue with Linux security for consumers (which I have to assume is what you’re talking about, since on the server side a sysadmin will want to configure any antivirus and firewall anyways) could be that different distributions will have different configurations - both for security and for preference-based things like desktop environments. This does unfortunately mean that users could find themselves installing less secure distros without realizing it, choosing them for their looks/usage patterns.