Obviously this won’t work for all sports, but things like football, track, soccer, it would allow for de-gendered team, even allowing athletes with the skills but not the genetically-endowed physical attributes to have a place to play.

Note: I know very little about sports and being on a sports team, so please point out anything that doesn’t make sense.

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      On average, but there’s outliers.

      Like, there are women out there with higher testorone than the average man, and crazy is a huge factor.

      I played rugby in college and we hung out with the women’s team and drunk coed wrestling was definitely a common thing.

      Every once and a while a non rugby player would think it was just an excuse to roll around with a hot chick, and they would get absolutely demolished. Like I’m not talking about underestimating the woman and losing quickly due to technical skill. Just getting absolutely manhandled by a girl without the socially ingrained fear of violence and pain. Like, I was one of the biggest guys on the men’s team and had wrestling experience, I still lost to some of them. Women almost a foot shorter and that I had more than 50 pounds on. Because they really wanted that W and kept trying till they got it.

      Hell, for two years we had coed practice including full speed tackling and scrimmages. Top end speed was usually the only clear difference, and even then the fastest five players on the field was never all guys.

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        Every once and a while a non rugby player would think it was just an excuse to roll around with a hot chick, and they would get absolutely demolished. Just getting absolutely manhandled by a girl

        The perfect deal if they’re into that

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        There was a story on Reddit from a soldier, his squad ended up in a fight with rugby players in a bar in Australia and after the fight they had a drink together and when a soldier told the players they were pretty brave to start fighting people in the army, they replied “the only people we fear is women who play rugby because they’re completely crazy”.

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        Like, there are women out there with higher testorone than the average man

        No, that doesn’t happen, the adrenal glands and ovaries do not produce enough t to reach even very low male levels, testosterone for the most part is produced in the testicules which cis women do not have. that much testosterone would transition a woman into a man, they would grow beard and get a deeper voice, that’s how HRT works for FtMs.

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          they would grow beard and get a deeper voice, that’s how HRT works for FtMs.

          Plenty of people with XY chromosomes can’t grow facial and have a high pitched voice well into their 20s or even after

          And plenty of people with XX chromosomes shave/wax/bleach facial hair and have deep voices.

          Hormones aren’t binary, there’s a bunch of different hormones that can be in a lot of different ranges

          And that’s not even getting into the other options besides XX/XY

          Stop trying to make everyone conform to your binary views on gender.

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            She’s not talking about gender he’s talking about sex. Someone born with testicles with XY chromosomes is always going to produce more testosterone than someone born with ovaries with XX chromosomes - assuming both sexual organs are functioning as expected.

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              Oh, nice to know that girl who beat me (in the same weight class) at wrestling was cuz her sexual organs weren’t working properly.

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                We’re talking about testosterone in blood not wrestling abilities. A 300lb woman will beat an 110lb man in wrestling. Doesn’t mean she has higher T.

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                  Amazing how one can dismiss another’s personal experience by simply insisting a different scenario happened.

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                    What personal experience am I dismissing? Please explain. I’m talking about human anatomy. The organ that produces testosterone are the testicles. Ovaries produce a token amount.

                    We are talking about T % in blood. Not personal experiences.