• waddle_dee@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Ah yes, those yesterday Republicans advocating for stronger labor laws, stricter gun control, and securing abortion as a right for Americans. Man, those Republicans were so cool back in the day.

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        Nixon was for stronger gun control even supporting a total handgun ban. Similarly Regan was as governor. Row v. Wade was largely seen as sensible by Republicans when it was determined. Nixon also signed OSHA.

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          Nixon gets a lot of shit but I’d much rather have another Nixon than a Bush, Reagan, or fucking Trump… he was actually a mixed bag on most issues (the big exception being the war on drugs) and is lauded as one of the best presidents for Native American rights… that all said, he did still delay and minimize labor rights. You need to get back pre-Eisenhower to start getting into Republicans that actually aren’t pieces of shit and then we’re basically at the party swap.

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            Nixon started the GOP’s destruction of the middle class. When Nixon took office, a high school graduate with a Union job could buy a house and support a family of four. By the time Reagan was elected that was already a rarity.

            Here’s how it worked. The Vietnam War was like steroids for the US economy. The aging steel mills of the mid-West were running 24/7 to make enough bombs. The demand was so high that it was cheaper for Germany and Japan to build their own steel mills because they couldn’t get US steel.

            Now comes the Arab Oil Boycott and the energy crisis. Huge demand for small gas efficient cars and no love for big American gas guzzlers. Ever seen pictures of those cool lofts in New York’s SoHo district? Those building were full of small factories making shoes/purses/toys etc etc. All those businesses closed and there was a massive migration to non-Union states and eventually China.

            Moreover, Nixon had been paying for the War by printing money. He didn’t want to raise taxes, and people didn’t think about where the money was coming from.

            Reagan was the real villain in the piece, but Nixon was the guy who gave him the gun.

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                Actually it was started by Eisenhower.

                Maj. Dale R. Buis and Master Sgt. Chester M. Ovnand become the first Americans killed in the American phase of the Vietnam War when guerrillas strike a Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) compound in Bien Hoa, 20 miles northeast of Saigon. The group had arrived in South Vietnam on November 1, 1955, to provide military assistance. The organization consisted of U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps personnel who provided advice and assistance to the Ministry of Defense, Joint General Staff, corps and division commanders, training centers, and province and district headquarters.

                Be that as it may, it was LBJ who ramped up the bombings and it was Nixon who ruined Johnson’s chances of getting a peace .

                https://www.bing.com/search?q=nixon+sabotaged+the+vietname+peace+talks&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN

                It’s always funny to me that the people who claim to love America the most are the most ignorant of the actual hsitory.

                It’s even funnier when they try to cite history and fail.

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                  Actually it was started by Eisenhower

                  Actually it was started by Kennedy. Providing training and logistics isn’t the same as actively engaging in a war (or, in this case, “police action”). The US didn’t become a combatant until the Gulf of tonkin and that was all Kennedy.

                  Be that as it may, it was LBJ who ramped up the bombings

                  This is the only thing you said that isn’t nonsense

                  It’s always funny to me that the people who claim to love America the most are the most ignorant of the actual hsitory.

                  You and your strawman can suck the fattest part of my dick

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                    The US didn’t become a combatant until the Gulf of tonkin and that was all Kennedy.

                    The Gulf of Tonkin incident (Vietnamese: Sự kiện Vịnh Bắc Bộ) was an international confrontation that led to the United States engaging more directly in the Vietnam War. It consisted of a confrontation on August 2, 1964,

                    On November 22, 1963, John F. Kennedy, the 35th president of the United States, was assassinated while riding in a presidential motorcade through Dealey Plaza in Dallas

                    Better check your pants, because if that’s your fact checking I’m not sure you have a wee-wee at all.

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        The loved gun control when black people started arming themselves. Most of the reason California has the strict laws it does

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        We talking about the same yesterday Republicans that “advocate” for those things and never actually implement them when in power?

        You can only deny basic reality so many times before you just look like a fool…

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          Republicans never advocated for those things at least for the past 50 years, and the comment you’re responding to is satire.