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    A great way to tell if they mean “anti-imperialist” as “against the conquering and subjugating of other groups” or instead just “in favor of anyone that declares themselves to be against the United States and Western Europe.”

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        Eh, more so when going against Russia and China. They peddle propaganda like a farmer flings manure on their field.

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        in favor of anyone that declares themselves to be against the United States and Western Europe.

        make this the primary pillar of your politics and you’ll be right 90% of the time.

        Yeah, oppose those degenerate effeminate globalhomo Westerners, king! 👑👑👑👑👑

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        Imperial Japan rather famously fought against the United States and various Western European colonial powers. Had you lived back during the second world war era, would you have viewed them favorably?

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            Similar can be said of a number of our enemies today though, especially Russia. This isn’t to say that we support the Ukrainians purely based on empathy or that the US isn’t still an exploitative power, but just deciding that anyone that doesn’t like the west must be good will inevitably lead one to bad conclusions, because no country does literally everything wrong, and because oftentimes, the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy who’s interests happen to be misaligned with the first one.

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            How about as this meme displays, Ukraine and Uyghurs. Still 90%?

            Not stoning gay people to death. Still 90%?

            Allowing people to elect their leaders by voting in a democracy. Still 90%?

            Giving women the same rights as men (even allowing them to drive!). Still 90%?

            Freedom of press? Freedom of association? Freedom of speech? Still 90%?