• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Personally, I was overall disappointed with DIS. But when watching it there was the occasional moment that I loved. Lorca was a great character (until they did the haha he’s actually super space Hitler rug-pull), much of the props, set designs, and costumes were great, Mudd was superb, it introduced us to Anson Mount’s Pike and led to SNW, Saru was genuinely one of the most interesting characters in all of Trek, etc.

    It also had a bunch of stuff that I just really really didn’t like. But meh. That’s just, like, my opinion maaaaann.

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    It’s pretty bad. Comparing it to other Trek or not. Writing is atrocious. Much of the acting is bad. Crying Captain crying damn near every episode. Not developing much of the bridge crew over 5 years. Not to mention not remembering their own rules (I remember once they said they couldn’t jump while cloaked, and then they did it).

    Stamets, Saru, and Georgiou were they only ones that kept me watching.

    If others can find joy in it, sounds good to me, but I’ll pass thanks.

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      It’s pretty terrible, not terrible enough to not see. The main problem is they made it very very difficult to care at all about anyone. Burnam is the most intollerable captain ever, they barely develop any character at all, and if they do, it’s only to kill them immediately after and try and squeeze some easy feelings from us. Well developed characters are instead falsely killed, but ultimately protected by plot armor. As you mentioned, Stamets and Saru are the only really decent guys.

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    It’s almost like people throw a fit over everything new for little reason other than not what they’re used to. TNG was whined about. Ds9. Voyager. Discovery is in good company. Still Trek, no matter what anyone whines otherwise

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      Ds9: where’s the exploring? They’re on a space station!
      Voyager: where are all the aliens we know about?
      Enterprise: it’s been a long road.

      With time, they all got their space. (This is me agreeing)

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        All Trek is equal.

        With the exception of Code of Honor and that racist ass shit they wrote for Chakotay

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          Is there anyone who dislikes Lower Decks? I’d say LD is more equal than the others.

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            Ok so literally not what you’re after, because I do like LD.

            However, sometimes it feels a bit too Rick and Mortyish for my taste. Mariner could shout “Wubalubadubdub haha, amarite guys??” and it would seem completely in character both with her and the show.

            I guess it makes a lot of sense considering they poached some talent from the R&M team, and LD was greenlit after executives saw how popular R&M was (the same is true for multiple other sci-fi comedy cartoons).

            I still like it, but I can’t sit and watch like 4 episodes in one sitting like I could with DS9 or SNW.

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            Yes, it’s the least Star Trek I’ve seen so far. I couldn’t make it past maybe the 2nd or 3rd episode. Much preferred Final Space if we’re going for that kind of show.

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            I really dislike lower decks. I find it annoying and lacking in ideas. I feel exactly the same about Final Space the previous show by the creator.

            That said I don’t think it’s bad or not very “Star Trek”. It just completely grates on me.

            To contrast I really like TOS, TNG, and DS9. I thought VGR and ENT felt “Star Trek” but badly written. DSC and PIC are badly written and don’t feel “Star Trek” to me. I’ve herd the final PIC season is pretty good so I’ll give it a shot at some point.

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      When The Last Jedi came out I went to see it with some friends who were big Star Wars fans. I thought it was fun, they hated all of it. I said to them “I guess I am not big enough of a Star Wars fan to hate Star Wars that much.” The same is true for almost everything.

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        I’ve been a Star Wars fan for almost three decades and I think almost all Disney Star Wars is “fine” at worst. Even most of the things I didn’t like had some sort of redeeming qualities, or I could recognize that I wasn’t the target audience. The only thing I truly hated was Rise of the Skywalker, which is quite possibly my least favourite Star Wars thing ever.

        I realize this puts me in the very small minority among Star Wars fans, and it’s the reason I tend to avoid fan discussions these days - the relentless negativity is exhausting and leaves little room for discussing the things about Disney Star Wars I find good and/or interesting.

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      Nah.

      Lower Decks and SNW is generally well liked even though it’s new and not what people are used to (LD is a wacky cartoon comedy).

      Both TNG and DS9 were bad shows in the beginning (DS9 could be described as ok-ish, but it ran concurrently to TNG in its prime, so looked worse in comparison). Fans didn’t dislike them because they were new and then got use to them, they disliked them because they started out bad and then liked them because they got better. VOY and Enterprise are generally considered bad to highly flawed (ENT 3rd season being the exception because, again, it was good).

      There are PLENTY of reasons not to like Discovery. You enjoyed it? Great, have fun. No need to dismiss people not liking it because it’s new or whatever.