Inspired by gregorum’s post concerning issues with startrek.website, which is ironic as lemmy.world is a bit glitchy right now and isn’t letting me upload and had to use my alt here.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.netEnglish
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    9 months ago

    I can’t say if I like it or hate it as a whole; haven’t watched the show it yet (so please don’t assume this or my previous statement are meant to disparage; that wasn’t my intention). But I also haven’t seen Strange New Worlds, which still aesthetically looks like Trek to me from images I have seen. The vibe and tone are way different. Discovery looks like it is trying to be dark and gritty, which isn’t very trekky IMO. Which is one of the two main reasons I still haven’t watched it (the other being Paramount+ fuckin’ sucks)

    • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.eeEnglish
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      9 months ago

      Trek is gritty as FUCK. TOS was quite gritty with ww3, genetic wars, khan… TNG had roving rape gangs. DS9 had apartheid space nazis. Disco is quite tame compared to the darker tones of DS9 by FAR. I think even behind the comedy, Lower Decks is darker than Disco.

      • CptEnder@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        Yeah DS9, specifically the Dominion Wars, is leaps and bounds the darkest Trek. It took the question of “how far must I go before I myself become the monster?” and applied it to a Star Fleet officer. And how far he was willing to go to protect the Federation was truly terrifying.

      • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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        9 months ago

        Here’s the thing: Trek was never gritty before. Trek acknowledged the hardships of how we got to that utopian place, but only as a… distant abstract. It was in the past. As Trek went on and new series premiered, more history was revealed. It was gruesome. WWIII.The Eugenics Wars. Khan— who we then met, twice, and, who, then became a person of galactic importance.

        But it wasn’t until DS9 that we actually got a glimpse of post-contemporary Earth, but pre-WWIII. We saw San Fransisco in 2024. We saw something we had not yet, as a society, yet conceived in the mainstream: Sanctuary Districts.

        Today is March 17, 2024.

        I’m not gonna lie: in 1993, I was 14. Even then, I didn’t see how we could stop all this from happening.

        I’ll be 85 in 2064. I really hope I live to meet the Vulcans.