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    3 months ago

    If we made college free, we would restrict college to only the best and brightest. That is how the rest of the world does it.

    I prefer our current system where it is available to anyone.

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        3 months ago

        There are student loans available to fund college or scholarships. The military also had the GI Bill. The National guard has the GI bill and variable program based on the state.

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          Many of those loans have interest attached, and can have a detrimental effect on credit score, and that’s if you even qualify.

          Why should people put themselves into poverty to be educated when it benefits us as a country to have an educated population?

          That’s not the answer you think it is. Clearly you’re just out of touch.

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            Yes that is how a loan works. You have interesting attached to loans.

            Everyone qualifies unless you fit certain disqualifying statuses such as drug dealing, didn’t register for the draft, etc.

            Taking the improper people and trying to educate them wastes time and money. That is how we ended up in this situation.

            Even in countries that offer “free” education, students earn just as much as Americans.

            https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/upshot/an-international-final-four-which-country-handles-student-debt-best.html

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              My whole point is cost shouldn’t be a barrier to education. Loans only serve as a bridge to affording something otherwise unaffordable, but they don’t address the root cause.

              Which people do you consider “improper”? Are you saying only “proper” people should be educated? How do you make the distinction, and what is the benefit of having an uneducated portion of the population? Are you suggesting educated drug dealers are responsible for the general unaffordability of education?

              This sounds racially coded. I think you just outed yourself.

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                Test scores. That is how other countries do it that have cheap or free education. Only the best get to go. The other people just do trade school.

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                  Hmmm, you’re still limiting the acquisition of knowledge to “proper” people.

                  It makes no sense for the ones who pass a test to be the ones deserving of more knowledge, rather than those who may need the education more.

                  Since education itself has no known negative side-effects, why limit access?

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                    That is how most countries that provide free education work. If you had read the article, you would see they end up with just as much debt as Americans.

                    Since education itself has no known negative side-effects, why limit access?

                    Cost. Even in countries where it is free, they end up in just as much debt as here.

                    There is no free lunch.