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    20 hours ago

    Is it outdated (other than the “Siamese” description of conjoined twins)?

    Liberals always seem to be the first to ally with fascists against the left.

    Edit: I’d love a counterexample from any downvoter. All that tells me is that y’all don’t know your history. Liberals capitulate because they’re comfortable in their bourgeois status and don’t want to risk their financial stability for minority rights. Prove me wrong.

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      19 hours ago

      Uh… the liberal powers sided with Joseph Stalin to beat Mussolini and Hitler in the biggest war involving liberals, communists and fascists?

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        Sure, eventually. And then only because their liberal order was directly attacked by fascism.

        But who capitulated within Germany? The liberal (small l) government gave Hitler a slap on the wrist, because they were more worried about socialists.

        Appreciate the input, this is actually a great discussion point.

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          That’s not true, they ‘gave Hitler a slap on the wrist’ because just 20 years earlier they lived through a war that killed 11 million people and were psychologically unprepared for another one. And the liberal order wasn’t attacked by fascists at the outset really, Poland wasn’t part of it. In fact there wasn’t really a liberal order at all. It was ultimaty a matter of balance of power.

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            Hitler’s activities within Germany at his arrest were those of a street agitator akin to someone like Enrique Tario. The liberals in government liked that the fascist movement was wrecking the socialists in the streets and taking their rhetoric and twisting it towards right-wing projects.

            Hitler didn’t get his minimal punishment to avoid a war.

            And the Allies joined the war because they realized it would be devastating to their empires if they let the Axis take whatever they wanted.

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              It doesn’t make sense to universalize that moment into some kind of lesson about liberalism and fascism though. And the USSR only joined the war when attacked after havjng conspired to split Poland with fascist Germany.