Kamala Harris is the reason I’m voting this year. I would have strongly considered Biden before if he would have been talking about Supreme Court reform before now. I have issues with Kamala Harris’ record, but it’s leagues above Biden’s and light years above Trump. It just doesn’t feel hopeless anymore to me.
I was wrong to feel that way. Harris 2024
Decisions are made by those who show up. It’s as simple as that. It really is the very least you SHOULD do as a functional adult.
I get how not everyone wants to be active on campaigns, can donate, etc. But voting itself should definitely be a given. Same goes for small elections; if you don’t vote, someone else will decide for you. And you might not like what they decide.
Show the fuck up and vote.
My friends and a lot of my coworkers I were Bernie supporters in 2016 – donated, attended events, etc. I made sure I was registered to vote and strongly encouraged my friends to as well. Talking to them after the primary was depressing as fuck … most of them didn’t vote, and had the lamest excuses you could imagine. It was eye opening.
Alright: whatever. Great work guys, now we get to vote for Hillary, since it was going to be either her or Trump as president. Shockingly almost none of the aforementioned friends/coworkers voted for her, and several that admitted they couldn’t get off their asses to vote for him in the primary complained about how it was “stolen” from Bernie.
It was hard not slapping the shit out of them.
Good thing the party learn d their lesson and stopped running uncharismatic elderly moderates with terrible approval ratings…
Right?
The only people who dont vote for the least bad option are the people who have the luxary not to.
We gotta get us some Approval Voting so people can vote for their true favorite without worrying if it’ll accidentally give them a worse election result.
Is this ever gonna happen, though? I see it like guaranteed under every single social media post that complains about how we don’t have a functional system and while I agree that fptp as a system is bad and horrible, it almost feels like a red herring at this point because it has such a low chance of ever being changed as each party in power, and any party that theoretically ever able to take power, would not stand to benefit from alternative voting. It’s like prison reform or free healthcare or making weed legal or any number of other things that has high levels of voter approval but conveniently never happen because it’s not in the best interest of the party, except this one is possibly more niche and easier to spread misinformation about.
Like I dunno, what’s the M.O. on getting this done? Get it approved in a couple local elections and then just hope it bubbles up from there? I know in oregon there’s supposed to be some referendum on it, but I kind of doubt it’s going to pass even though I’m gonna vote for it. I seriously don’t see it happening, at least on a federal level, without some extremely serious reform that basically completely reworks how the government currently functions.
Ranked choice voting has already been adopted for state elections in multiple states.
I’m so done with the Democrats. I’m not voting for Biden. I’ve voted for these guys for 10 years and at this point I feel like they do nothing with the power they are given when they do have it.
Oh okay so you’d rather let the country and all LGBT people be killed instead
What an unhinged false dichotomy. You really should make a normie conservative friend sometime. You’ll find that most of them aren’t the caricature depicted on Lemmy.
“Hillary is the best choice, she’s guaranteed to win!” - the democratic party in 2016.
She was never the best choice of the Democrats available, but you must admit we had no idea how goddamned stupid people were back then. She should have won. Turns out, yeah, russia was listening.
Al Gore should have won too, but here we are.
I don’t know who down voted you? They have proven several times that Trump’s inner circle was with Russian businesses that controlled advertising on Facebook. It’s not that far of a stretch.
They probably worked harder than they had to. She really is an unlikable piece of shit.
Ridiculously qualified, intelligent, experienced, liberal as we could hope for at the time.
Just so unlikable. And shrill!! Oh, and not even a man. Pfft.
Hilary Clinton is an extremely condescending political elite that seems to have about as much humanity as a lizard.
She’s a perfect representation of the DNC.
She lost the most winnable election she could hope for. Must be the Russians.
I’m independent but I can’t vote for a vegetable. Do better. I’m hoping some third party options appear. Doubtful. We’re locked into a two party shitshow. Don’t pretend Biden is a good option.
Third party “options” will fail in the electoral college. Because electoral votes (with very few exceptions) are all-or-nothing.
Non voting, third party voting, helps trump.
This is not complicated.
I’d rather have a vegetable than a fat racist fuckhead
Cool, so you directly or indirectly help the fascist get elected. Smart.
That’s my problem with other liberals/independents. Everyone has to pass their bullshit purity test (candidates, friends, family, etc). That’s why Republicans win. They stick together no matter what.
And because of that we got a better president than the one we have currently. Did you know that historically high voter turnout precedes bad times.
The answer isn’t to increase the democrat voter turnout. It’s to decrease republican voter turnout. The fewer people vote the more the voters are composed only of high information voters and the more politicians have to talk to the public like we are actual fucking adults. That’s good for the public no matter which party wins.
We are basically guaranteed to have about a 50:50 mix of republican and democrat control over time. The question is do you want them to be shit-tier democrats and republicans or high quality democrats and republicans?
