Biden already has those codes. If I look at where we started with Trump and where we ended up, and then where Biden picked up and where we ended up, my choice clearly becomes Biden. Trump went from “grab em by the pussy” to Covid to breaking a bunch of laws to an insurrection. Biden cleaned up Trump’s mess and avoided a complete imminent global financial collapse. All things considered, I’d rather see Biden over Trump and it’s too late to try to swap out Biden.
But have you considered that he didn’t change military policy on Isreal?
That should be the one and only issue you base your vote on, according to a scary amount of people around here.
Edit: See? Here they are, saying Trump and Biden are the same. It’s kinda wild to watch.
If Biden is okay with murdering Palestinians, what makes you think he’d care about murdering you?
You’re right, better to advocate for him to lose to Trump. He’ll treat me way better.
Explain how Biden’s policies are different from Trump’s.
Were you asleep for 4 years or are you truly this disingenuous?
I woke up from liberalism in 2016 after the corporate media, which had already lied about the Iraq War and the Vietnam War and plenty of other pretty important things, reassured me that Trump could never win the election. I returned to the USA (big mistake) after living for years in a country with universal health care, and found myself surrounded by liberals who insisted that universal health care is evil and terrible and impossible, though I had used it hundreds of times and thought it was amazing, and was horrified by the possibility that my family would be bankrupted if one of us got into a car accident (for instance). I began to wonder if I was on the right team. I started reading Marxist theory and history, and here I am, asking for someone to explain, using specific policy examples, how the Blue Cheetoh is different from the red one.
bOtH sIdEs ArE the SaMe
Bye.
Can we all agree that since we have an age-minimum of 35, then we should have an age-maximum tied to, say, retirement age?
The argument is simple: nobody is in their prime past retirement age. Nobody. And this by default suggests we guaranteed have better options to run the presidency than some geriatric seniors.
No one has said it in this thread, and there’s a lot of people talking about how they wish there was another option:
I’m voting for the Party for Socialism and Liberation and you can too!
They’re running Claudia de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to arms shipments to Israel.
There are many alternatives.
Pass electoral reform first IMO. Unless critical mass is achieved, we would be spoiling the election. This is why passing electoral reform is of utmost importance.
Democrats clearly understand the faults of First Past The Post voting. Go on any platform and suggest voting third party and the liberals will come in droves to explain the faults of the FPTP voting system.
Okay, you understand the voting system is flawed… then why do we still use FPTP voting? How can you explain these mathematical flaws to people considering voting third party and NOT do anything about the voting system? You don’t get to have both.
I don’t buy that. Both major parties, all the donors, the media, the lobbying groups and all the party machines in all fifty states are heavily invested the system we have.
I’m not gonna wait till we tip the whole system over to record a vote that actually represents my political positions.
If the two major parties are afraid of third party spoilers then they can adopt the platforms of those third parties.
Ok, then just be aware that when the pile of votes for 3rd party isn’t anywhere near either candidates pile your vote won’t matter. Biden and Trump will get the majority of votes and you will lose your chance to impact one of the most important elections in US history because of naive idealisms.
And neither party is afraid of the 3rd party, they use it. They take reasonable minded people who would never vote Republican and push them to 3rd party to weaken the Democrats votes. It’s exactly what they did with Bernie and how Trump won. They had massive turn out for the 3rd party that did absolutely nothing but split the Dems and allow the Republicans to be unified. A vote for 3rd party is a vote for Republicans, I know you don’t want to believe that reality but it’s true.
that’s not true.
third party votes provide access to funding, ballot and event presence, media coverage and public awareness. third party votes do matter and they have a measurable positive impact.
third party votes tell the two major parties exactly what positions they need to integrate into their platforms in order to pick up those ballots in those particular districts. even if a person doesn’t think it’s worthwhile to build support for a third party, a third party ballot is an undeniable record of what the two major parties can do to get your support.
when people start talking about this kind of thing i generally like to bring up perot 92, which had a serious effect on domestic policy and was proven not to be a spoiler multiple times in the years that followed.
Ok, prove me wrong, when was the last 3rd party president?
Anyone can see that a majority of 3rd party votes come from Democrats because the right is radicalized. So by splitting that base you empower the Republicans. A split Democrat/3rd party base accomplishes nothing but clearing the way for this project 2025 bs.
I never claimed there was a third party president and I already proved your claims wrong in my last post.
But if you want a third party president, look into Lincoln’s second term running as the Union party candidate, a coalition formation that came from triangulating around a bunch of smaller third parties.
If the democrats are afraid of a split they can change their platform to get more votes.
Yes, there has never been a 3rd party president and their won’t be for a long time.
But ya, let’s teach the Dems a lesson by handing over the country to the radical right, boy that’ll show em. How purposefully self destructive. You’re so idealistic that your not playing out the reality of how that will go.
Well the good news is that if Biden wins all the names being tossed around for 28 are in their 40s or 50s at the oldest.
I’m crossing my fingers for Whitmer personally.
Bad news is that if Trump wins, they’ll all probably be in prison by then.
Vote.
If you really believe the Republicans getting control of the nation state is a existential threat, you would want to use every tool possible to prevent that right?
What if we changed how we vote so maintaining democracy doesn’t fall solely into the democrats lap? So the democrats have backup on the debate stage! So there are more people to call trump out on his bullshit. So we have more chances to stop the Republicans. Wouldn’t you want more chances? Don’t you want to do everything we can to stop the worst from occurring?
Consider working towards passing electoral reform in your state. Maine and Alaska were able to do it… why not yours?
Especially in a blue state. What is stopping blue states from passing electoral reform? Cause it ain’t the Republicans…
What if we changed how we vote so maintaining democracy doesn’t fall solely into the democrats lap?
You’ve yet to explain how to do this before November. Still waiting.
Yeah this is like “if you don’t like either and you actually want something better, just change how voting works really quick, in a few months.”
That’s what they do. Anything but deal with reality.
Doing away with First Past The Post voting in favor of a more representative electoral system (such as but not limited to Ranked Choice voting) will Introduce competition into the electoral process.
This will increase the quality of candidates across the political spectrum. Yes, this would even help the Republicans pick less insane candidates.
Cool, how do we do that before November?
