Summary

Arab Americans who supported Trump in battleground states like Michigan express concerns over his key appointments, particularly pro-Israel figures like Mike Huckabee, Marco Rubio, and Elise Stefanik, who oppose a two-state solution and back Israel’s actions in Gaza.

While some voters hoped Trump would prioritize peace in the Middle East, his picks have fueled unease about his administration’s direction.

Outreach leaders like Massad Boulos, who engaged Arab American communities during Trump’s campaign, have yet to secure roles, leaving some supporters questioning their expectations of Trump’s policies.

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    Did they forget the Muslim travel ban he tried to do in his first term? It was one of the first things he did in office. He has already told you who he is multiple, multiple times.

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      Trump just got reelected. America forgot about Trump’s first term…

      It’s absolute insanity…

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    People kept saying, right up to the election, “don’t vote for Harris because she supports genocide.”

    Those people got what they wanted and yet they’re suddenly very unhappy about it. Interesting, isn’t it?

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    You were warned.

    You refused to listen.

    You refused to look at the evidence staring you in the face.

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    German jews who voted for Hitler got concerned soon after the elections too. Many ethnic Germans too, but all they had to do was say “ich hab es nicht gewust” afterwards. The second World War has been so well documented. Yet many still haven’t learned anything from history.

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    “I just want you to think about what the alternative was,” said Abbas, referring to the current administration’s handling of Israel’s war in Gaza and its invasion of Lebanon. He added, “What did you expect from myself or many members of the community to do?”

    I see Abbas is still in the denial stage.

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      They’re always so eager to never once think critically and to always let themselves off the hook. I’m sorry, but on the brink of societal and ecological collapse, I equate those who refuse to think with those who actively destroy.

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    It’s fascinating how he didn’t permanently lose the vote of the entire US Muslim community when he, you know, tried to institute a Muslim ban.

    (I’m aware that “Arab Americans” doesn’t equal “Muslim Americans” but there’s a lot of overlap.)

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    I don’t wish any negative effects to all the people in Gaza and the West Bank. I do, however, wish that the people who voted for Trump have to experience the kind of pain that the people in Gaza and the West Bank will experience under Trump. All these fuckers are safe over here and won’t have to endure the kind of torture that voting in Trump will bring.

    They protest voted against Harris because she personally wasn’t stopping a war she had no power to stop, with the only alternative being the guy who will accelerate that war. They deserve everything that comes to them while I laugh in their fucking faces (at the same time crying actual tears for the victims of their betrayal over in Gaza).

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    As an Arab-American myself, I say fuck them. They deserve all the shit that’s to come their way. The dude said it loud and clear “let Bibi finish the job”. I know the Democrats didn’t do shit either, but at least they never said they wanted to deport everyone, which means you’ll still have a fucking voice. You can protest them when they’re in office. He was very clear with his stance on minorities. Some of them argued with me about “nuclear family and religion” and fucking bullshit. Dumbasses, you don’t need Trump to have a nuclear family and have your religion. It just never makes sense to me.

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    maaan… how the fuck are people this uninformed about who donald trump is and what he’s about? did all these people think supporting him would curry them favor, and make their people safer than if a less insane candidate took office? like, i geuinely don’t understand how you hear what this motherfucker says and not realize his whole entire deal i hating people who aren’t cishet white men. like i can get my friend who the first ever election she voted in in our country was 2016 when she grew up with different formats of propaganda, but he was president for four years, and this go around he’s been more mask off, and the people saying he’s dangerous have been more direct in their messaging.

    like… how are people this illiterate beyond just reading comprehension? like, why don’t you got anything comprehension, what is this?

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      54% of American adults have the reading comprehnsion skills of a 5th grader, or worse.

      How?

      Republicans have spent many decades defunding public education, with no effective pushback.

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        Republicans have spent many decades defunding public education

        Republicans have also spent many decades developing psychological operations aimed at controlling the news and churches.

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          Yes, this as well.

          All while the Democrat strategy was to… not do any effective counter propoganda at the same scale or in the same manner whatsoever, keep relying on the traditional media outlets that they also simultaneously know are dying and becoming more biased against them.

          But then they also do a surprise pikachu face when the mediums they know are dying and irrelevant… don’t reach people.

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        we’re going to fix this. i don’t know how yet. and it won’t be easy. and it won’t be short term. but we’re going to fix this, so read to a kid. make them remember reading time as the best part of their day. make them love the things AI can’t twist: physical artifacts

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          I appreciate your optimism, but my realism says no, no we probably won’t.

          We’ve got a maximum of 20 years, probably closer to 10, before millions, and then tens and then hundreds of millions of people around the world will be starving to death and attempting to mass migrate due to climate change, which we will not stop or mitigate.

          Governments around the world will continue becoming more authoritarian.

          Maybe we can make small, individual differences in our personal lives, but no, barring a worldwide overthrow of capitalism in some way that also does not result in a collapse of mass agriculture…

          No, we are looking at famine, destruction and chaos, and decent, critical thought oriented education will be an even more minor funding priority for all but the ruling class and their neo-nobility children.

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            we have two options to follow. we can do everything we can to make things better, or we can do nothing and everyone dies. personally i do not consider the latter viable. the former requires instilling hope that better things are possible. and here’s the thing: if we all band together against authoritarianism we will reach some people who are currently not awake to the possibilities. to reiterate, it will not be easy and it will not be short term, but if you ask me of the two possible outcomes, the one where everyone dies or the one where everyone gets to be free, i prefer the one where everyone gets to be free. so i’m gonna do everything in my power to bring that one to pass, even if it’s hard, unpleasant, or at times like right now seemingly impossible, but keep in mind every group faced with destruction passed down the messages they felt were most important, and always the message of the value of hope makes it through. hope is ultimately a weapon of resistance, one i refuse to give up

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              My dude thanks for the message of positivity. Personally I think we’re fucked regardless but I do appreciate the thread of hope. I try to do what I’m can individually as well and sometimes it feels futile but it’s good to know that there are some of us (dozens even!) still trying to do the right thing.

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              Oh I didn’t say we should do nothing.

              What I am saying is, is that we are past the threshold of a good future, for all but the hyper wealthy.

              Yes, we can do things to make it a less bad future for the masses, but there is no realistic plan where everyone, all 340ish million Americans, all 8 billionish humans, get to be free.

              Telling everyone authoritarianism is bad is not an effective strategy.

              Evidence: It’s what leftists and liberals have been doing for 8 years and it resulted in the greatest Republican sweep since Reagan.

              You have to actually do things, things which have a realistic chance of working.

              If your plan is to hope really hard, the lesson our hypothetical ancestors will learn is: Hopium cheerleading is an exhausting, virtue signalling waste of time that accomplishes nothing when it is not paired with actual, actionable plans.

              Have you got any of those?

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                Have you got any of those?

                For one thing, this is what fiction is for!

                If you’re like me, you probably know some people that fit in that neo-liberal democrat space: nice people, but definitely the kind MLK talked about as being an obstacle to progress. A lot of the time, they’re also the people that “aren’t into politics,” because they have straight white privilege, and these issues usually don’t affect them directly.

                One of the reasons the right has been so successful since Roe v Wade is because they get organized. They meet, they talk, they plan, they take small local action. And, of course, these are the kinds of things that leftists talk about. We need to organize, we need to work together, we need to stop in-fighting, etc. But we don’t have the natural advantage the right does.

                Third places. They’re built for the privileged and wealthy, and they fight to keep them that way. See campaigns against libraries. It’s way harder for a Jew, an Arab, and a gay man to walk into a bar and sit down for a discussion than it is for a bunch of old white ladies to talk about their Saturday plans at a church potluck. Spaces for left-leaning political discussion don’t really exist. Except in the realm of fiction.

                Star Trek is, of course, a very well known example of progressive fiction. I, personally, am a big Trekkie. Here on Lemmy, there have been memes about the Bell Riots (a two part episode from DS9, involving the crew time traveling to September 2024). We were making those jokes because those episodes, especially today, are very topical. AND THAT WORKS!

                I’ve had great conversations about those episodes with my centrist parents, as well as several acquaintances: conversations that deal with real topics, like homelessness, civic duty, and citizen action.

                The right builds their fortress on a foundation of anti-intellectualism because shutting down other conversations is their most powerful weapon, and they’ve employed it to devastating effect. The atmosphere in our country has been curated to be hostile to political speech and philosophy. Just think of how much ridicule one would receive for recommending something like a salon to a group of friends, rather than something like a boardgame night (this is also affected by lack of free time, so support your unions!). It’s for the same reason they sow division between minorities.

                But fiction doesn’t have this weakness! Have your friends over to watch some Star Trek, or lend out your copy of Men at Arms, and get Sir Terry Pratchett’s Sam Vimes “Boots” Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness into the hands of an impressionable youth. AND THEN DISCUSS WHAT IT MEANS! Do some literary analysis. Talk about the realities that informed the art. Empathize with Jadzia as the cultural norms of her society demand she end her relationship with her former lover, simply because she’s also a woman now. Then, suddenly you have your own group for leftist political discourse.

                That’s where it gets truly tough, but as was stated above, this is going to have to be a long term effort. This is a first step. It’s up to us all to take one, and then the next, and then the next, just like those monsters that set out to repeal Roe v Wade 40 years ago, and only succeeded now.

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            and also libraries and book mobiles. and help fund reading therapists however you can. give the children the things that helped you come up. that’s all society has ever been. a 10k year long effort to give the kids a better future than the one we were given. it’s just every 80 years we fuck it all up and give them a worse future. but if our ancestors voices can reach us, our voices can still be around as long as the truth needs to be told

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            when i say “we” i don’t mean america. i mean the poor, the lower classes, i mean people who know the truth. people who understand hierarchies aren’t necessary to society, that poverty is enforced, and that all people can be, and deserve to be free. sorry for any disclarity. this is not just about the united states. this is about a global system of terror that’s about to get a lot scarier after a summer of intensifying authoritarianism

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              I’m saying that sometimes it’s not fixable. We’ve been at this for about 200 000 years, almost nothing has been long term solved yet.

              Besides, your perspective is iffy. From what you’re saying in the reply, you’ve ignored the suffering of the rest of the world until it affected you personally, and now you claim to speak for everyone affected? Seems like quite a douchebag thing to do.

              The world will be different, this will probably not be what ends us all. We will more probably survive as a species only to put ourselves in a bind with even higher stakes. Our base social instincts are wired this way as long as there’s resource scarcity or inequality.

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                you’re projecting mate. I’ve been saying we live in a global system of torture for 13 years and protesting genocide since 2008. across the globe there are stories of societies who figured this shit out before white supremecy arrived on their shores and wrecked everything. i’m sorry, but no. this resource scarcity and inequality are constructed by the holders of power. it’s planned and on purpose to keep us from ever seeing that the rich keep us poor so we’ll stay angry at each other and let them stay in power. i fundamentally disagree with you about what all of human history tells us, and what the natural order is. i honestly ask you this, if the natural order is struggle between groups of people, why does it require so much energy and effort on the part of the part of the people in power to keep it going?

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                  Yeah, we seem to misunderstand each other at every turn, it may be that we have too little common ground for this to be a productive exchange.

                  Let’s chalk it up to cultural differences and see if we can meet in a forum more conducive to nuance and building understanding.