• Vilian@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    It’s interesting to read about south Korea feminist issue, men feel in disadvantage because they have mandatory conscription so they spend 1 or 2 years in the military and because of that woman have a “head start” in career and university, how to fix it? I don’t have any idea but it’s a interesting problem

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      7 days ago

      Have the women serve in the military too? Make it one year since you’d have twice as many people?

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        Having twice as many people is a problem. The training system would have to be able to handle twice as many people. Cutting service in half doesn’t work quite right either. If training takes 3 months 2 years of service gives you a productive soldier for 21 months but one year only gives you 9 months. Even if you double it to represent the personnel increase you get only 18 months of productive service. You end up with less productive, more expensive people who gain less experience.

        It doesn’t get better if you keep everything else the same and double the number of people. Payroll costs double and you need to maintain twice as much equipment, housing, supplies, etc.

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        6 days ago

        There’s the issue with body strength and how much weight each sex can carry on average, so it’s not as simply as putting more woman there, maybe with technology that can change from forced conscription to learn how to use drones I guess

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          Maybe in boot camp your strength would matter a lot, but for a number of roles, strength doesn’t matter. After all, a fair share of people are going to sit in an office. I did!

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            6 days ago

            But as those roles that significant? And wouldn’t it make more drama when those “easy” office roles only go to woman? Maybe if you 50/50 and claim “look you have a chance to not go to military” but idk how much office roles exist :v

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              Those roles are definitely significant, at very least in air force. The idea behind air force is basically “one guy flies the plane, hundred other supports that”. Generally, military in SK is completely different from other countries since you have 80% of all men there. No way you can expect a guy weighing 120kg to do all those typical military stuff 😂

              And yes, drama is inevitable, but it would at very least make military experience a bit more relatable. I don’t expect it to increase in the long term. Short term though, oh dear.

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    7 days ago

    While these issues definitely need to be discussed, this seems like a movement with an expiration date. Primarily because if these women are not having children, then their ideas are not likely to continue to propagate into the next generation. It also seems as though some men would be extremely reluctant to even approach a woman anymore because the interaction is so fraught with danger.

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      if these women are not having children, then their ideas are not likely to continue to propagate into the next generation

      Guess what: ideas AREN’T congenital. You can adopt them no matter if you’re genetically related to anyone espousing them. They’re not encoded into your DNA.

      It also seems as though some men would be extremely reluctant to even approach a woman anymore because the interaction is so fraught with danger.

      Sounds like manosphere gaslighting

      Women: “we have rights and we won’t put up with you violating them”

      Toxic men: “it’s not safe to be a man near women anymore!” 🙄