The term originally characterized farmers that had a red neck, caused by sunburn from long hours working in the fields. A citation from 1893 provides a definition as “poorer inhabitants of the rural districts … men who work in the field, as a matter of course, generally have their skin stained red and burnt by the sun, and especially is this true of the back of their necks”.[12] Hats were usually worn and they protected that wearer’s head from the sun, but also provided psychological protection by shading the face from close scrutiny.[13] The back of the neck however was more exposed to the sun and allowed closer scrutiny about the person’s background in the same way callused working hands could not be easily covered.

By 1900, “rednecks” was in common use to designate the political factions inside the Democratic Party comprising poor white farmers in the South.[14] The same group was also often called the “wool hat boys” (for they opposed the rich men, who wore expensive silk hats). A newspaper notice in Mississippi in August 1891 called on rednecks to rally at the polls at the upcoming primary election:[15]

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      Kids out here learning the basics of life on social media.

      Kids, remember the vast majority of mortgage payments are in interest alone. Also “mortgage” means “death contract”.
      And beer before liquor, never been sicker.

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        “Kids out here learning the basics of life on social media.”

        Well, they gotta learn SOMEWHERE! We certainly have dismantled public education to be less of a school and more of a free daycare.

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          i think the bigger thing here is how broke teens and young adults don’t have many places else to hang out and do this in person.

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    The entire reason it became an insult was because of wealthy urbanites disparaging the working class.

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        Do they call you downpunxx because you go down on every swinging dick within half a mile?

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        Whatever you call the kind of bigotry your comment represents it’s no better. Thank you for reminding us all that it’s still around.

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          Being “bigoted” against racists is infinitely better than being racist. Moral-relativist false equivalences can fuck all the way off.

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            I am talking about being bigoted against “rednecks” who are mostly no more racist than everyone else. I grew up in redneck territory and support those who reclaim it as a label of pride.

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      That’s one of the reasons it was popularized - coal miner unions wearing red bandanas. But late 19th century usage appears to be sunburnt workers.

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        Interesting. It’s kind of interesting, but in the battle of Blair mountain, there’s definitely some hints that there were already communist and anti-communist sentiments at work. I wonder if the red bandanas were a nod to communism.

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      Wiki says:

      A citation from 1893 provides a definition as “poorer inhabitants of the rural districts … men who work in the field, as a matter of course, generally have their skin stained red and burnt by the sun, and especially is this true of the back of their necks”.[12] … By 1900, “rednecks” was in common use to designate the political factions inside the Democratic Party comprising poor white farmers in the South.[14]

      Coal miners

      The term “redneck” in the early 20th century was occasionally used in reference to American coal miner union members who wore red bandanas for solidarity.

      Looks like sunburn predates coal miners.

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          I mean to have an actual citation from 1893 that provides a written out definition is huge. These things are around for a good bit before making their way into documentation.

          Reading through the talk, many people say coal and then provide links that come far after 1893.

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            The Wikipedia article doesn’t link to a 1893 citation. It links for a single paywalled article to make that claim. This sounds like an urban legend loop that seems to make sense until examined.

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    That doesn’t make sense, you get sun burn like that if you go from no sun exposure to lots of sun exposure. People working in the fields would not have been constantly sun burned unless they were albino.

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      Tell me you’ve never worked on a farm without telling me that you’ve never worked on a farm.

      The thumbnail photo is extreme, yes. But white farm workers still get sunburns.

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          Modern farming isn’t really comparable to folks working the land 100+ years ago. My point is that farmers 100 years ago weren’t stupid, they would have protected themselves when necessary and would have earned an impressive base tan.