It’s an election year, so the usual suspects are going to be screaming that any good person will vote party line Democrat and if you don’t you’re letting the fascists win and you’re a a bad person and a bad liberal/leftist/anarchist/communist/whatever.
Of course, every candidate from every major political party is a fascist of some flavor, but “you have to vote for the slightly better fascist or the slightly worse fascist will win” doesn’t have the same ring to it.
Just a reminder that voting is not the default, it’s not a civic duty, it’s not a requirement of being a good member of your community.
Voting, for United States citizens, is the personal choice to participate in one specific form of capitalist neoliberal politics - a form that claims the mantle of democracy while being one of the most profoundly undemocratic forms of government in history.
Don’t shame people for not voting.
Don’t shame people for voting third party.
Don’t shame people for write-in votes or protest votes.
Frankly, don’t talk about voting with random people at all. The choice to vote, or not, is a personal moral choice. You have no right to assume that someone considers voting to be a moral act - and there are strong arguments that voting in the United States is a profoundly immoral act - and assuming someone is a voter and asking them to pick a candidate to vote for is no different than assuming someone supports sex work and asking them to pick a sex worker to employ.
If you know someone is a registered voter, go ahead and talk to them about voting. But keep in mind voting third party, or abstaining from voting in a specific election, are also legitimate moral and political choices, and shaming someone for not voting party line Democrat is offensive, counterproductive, and rude.
And if you don’t know someone is a voter, don’t recommend they vote for or against someone or discuss electoral politics in general. Many of us find electoral politics profoundly immoral and the assumption that we would participate in such equally offensive.
Be respectful. Don’t vote shame. Thank you.
I’m just an outsider, but it seems to me that in 2016, many people on the left/anarchist /socialist/liberal whatever weren’t enthusiastic about Clinton and didn’t vote or voted third party. This led to Trump winning and subsequently nominate enough Supreme Court justices to set back abortion rights 50 years among many other things that probably are worse than whatever Clinton could have done.
You can express your preferences in primaries, local elections, in movements to change voting laws, but once candidates in a first past the post system are locked in, it’s intentional ignorance to pretend like it won’t be one of the two major party candidates that will win, and not voting for one helps the other one. If you’re okay with that, fine, but don’t pretend that not voting is a neutral act. You’re giving away your voice to whoever is voting one of the two major candidates, and I assure you the right does not care about their candidate’s past or unsavory aspects.
Agreed. This an anarchist community, and the system is considered terribly flawed whichever way you cut it, but how much does this high and mighty attitude of not participating in the unfair system matter to people that are actively harmed and have their lives ruined by the republicans?
Not voting in a moment like this is willingly letting minorities suffer just to feel “above” the system, because it will achieve nothing else. The fight for better system should be a constant one, not something you do one day in the least effective way and say that’s it.
Your comment in another thread made me think you still wanted engagement on this comment. I value good faith discussion, and while we may disagree on what that means, I think you’re engaging here in good faith. I value a diversity of thought, and while the conflict in YBTP is clearly a counter-example, we haven’t been banning and don’t typically ban people from the community who want to discuss anarchist politics with us.
The way I think about elections is foreign to a lot of people, and actually may not be that common among anarchists. I’d like to work on a metaphor to better explain it to people. Would you consider helping me by sharing a dialogue about it?