• Yambu@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    he raped a minor

    no proof that he’s a pedophile

    Are you stupid?

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      3 months ago

      Did you know most child rapists don’t fit pedophilia diagnostic critia?

      Edit: I read an article on him and he has a 2 year old son. I really hope he isn’t a pedophile.

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      3 months ago

      The majority of child molesters are not pedophiles. It is more about power dynamics / them being an easy target.

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      If you go by medical definition, that would be hebephilia. Pedophilia is only used with children younger than 11.

      The reason in this case could also have been because she was an easy target, the age must not necessarily be the reason.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        3 months ago

        Repeatedly telling people he’s not technically a pedophile is really not in any way helpful. He raped a 12-year-old multiple times. Who is it hurting to call him a pedophile?

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          Why do you need to call him something if it’s inaccurate? Just call him a child rapist and be done with it. Words have meanings and there is no reason to use them incorrectly.

          As for who it’s hurting: everyone. Pedophila literally has nothing to do with rape. It is a disorder. It’s estimated it effects as much as 3% of the population. The vast majority of those people have never done anything wrong. They were simply born that way. The more people conflate the medical term with crimes the less likely pedophiles are going to seek help or treatment. Nobody wants to risk being outed as part of the most hated group of people on the planet.

          If you want to actually help children instead of being angry the best course of action is to destigmatize the disorder so people can get counseling without fear of ruining their lives. Forcing people to bottle up their feelings/urges/etc. does not lead to good outcomes.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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            3 months ago

            Do you think maybe medical terms and terms that the general public use aren’t always the same? Like you know when someone says “I broke my toe” and they just fractured it, people are fine with them saying that even though it wouldn’t medically be considered broken, yes?

            Similarly, if someone says “I’m feeling depressed today,” do you think most people assume they have clinical depression? I sure wouldn’t.

            And sorry, you are not going to destigmatize pedophilia by doing an “umm… actually” every time a child rapist is called a pedophile.

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              Only because people like you refuse to change. That’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.

              I don’t understand why you want to be wrong so badly. What do you even gain from that? In this case using the wrong word isn’t even just wrong it’s objectively harmful but for some reason you want to keep doing it anyway? Why?

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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                3 months ago

                People like me? Refuse to change? I didn’t call him a pedophile.

                I’m saying read the room.

        • friendlymessage@feddit.org
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          Real talk: constantly conflating child rapists with pedophiles is actually a problem. Pedophiles didn’t choose their sexuality, however coming out would destroy their lifes because of how society sees them, so they don’t. Which means they don’t seek help which increases the risk of them acting on it at some point in their life. Even if you feel no sympathy towards them, which I get, them getting treatment is important to reduce cases of child abuse.