• rzlatic@lemmy.ml
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    8 days ago

    and yet, EU is preparing for the possibilty of trump win as the race is head to head and very tight. after months of clearly open racism, bigotry, hatred and fascism.

    as an european, looking at millions of voters still not seeing a problem in that man, still giving his administration a vote, seems horrifying.

    this is not a question of “racist joker” or demented trump, this is clearly a masks off of millions of people who cheers to this and will give it a vote.

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      An insane amount of people agree with the rhetoric, but an even crazier amount never get to hear the crap he pulls because their media feeds them constant vitriol and lies,

      I live in a very blue city, and even here there are zero news channels that aren’t right-leaning owned by one of 3 billionaires or corporations. And the public broadcasting has been discredited by the right for decades.

      I just wish it were more obvious - listen to experts not billionaires and politicians.

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        In the other hand, if you’re looking for in depth orb transparent national coverage from local news, most of which is owned and operated by clear channel communications or Sinclair broadcasting group, you’re going to have a bad time.

        It’s like being angry at AM talk radio for not providing balanced coverage of democratic candidates

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        Pretty low, even if Trump wins. The things preventing that scenario are two-fold:

        1. Trump can’t unilaterally leave NATO. He would need the Senate to do it I think (I’m not 100% sure here).

        2. Even without NATO, the EU (especially the Nordics & Poland) have sizable militaries and a defense agreement with the Baltics. It would be suicide for Russia to do that.

        Personally, I’m more worried about the potential of Ukraine being left out to dry causing them to fall, immediately followed by Moldova falling, which would then pull Romania (and therefore the EU) into the war. This would not be a defensive war, which wouldn’t trigger article 5. Who knows how things would spiral from there.

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          I wonder how much independence Russia has now. I doubt they’d march into another country by their own will right after Ukraine, they usually take some time to sit out the situation and replenish resources (2nd Chechen - Georgia - Ukraine 2014 - Ukraine 2022), but what if they’d be pushed by China or whoever to continue being a destabilizing chaos actor? Like with Transistria in Moldova, they also has tabs in Georgia-Armenian conflict and northern regions of Kazakhstan has the same vatnik sympathy problem as Donbass pre-2014 as I’ve heard.

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            Unlike those previous conflicts, Russia has deployed pretty much their entire military equipment reserves. With how much of a brain drain they had, it will take them a long time to re equip for another war.

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      It’s not a question of millions of Americans not seeing a problem with the racism, because they are also racists.

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      my parents are voting for him because he’s racist. They’re old, white, and racist too, so I guess it’s some form of tribalism. They see themselves represented by the disgusting behavior of drumpf, and wish to uplift him almost as if it venerates/excuses their own racism/sexism/xenophobia. They think “We can’t be the bad guys, look at how popular someone with the same ideas as us is!” them voting for drumpf is really them voting for the idea that they’re actually good people, despite everything their children/peers/idols are telling them.

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      The best description of American politics I ever read was from, of all places, a Tom Clancy Novel. He basically said 40 percent of Americans would vote Democrat Even if Adolph Hitler was the nominee and 40 Percent would Vote Republican even if Lenin was the nominee. There’s that 20% who actually thinks about who’s running and vote accordingly.

      I would strongly argue that both parties have been so out of touch with the common man that both parties are fairly unpalatable to alot of them.