• fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc
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    13 days ago

    It’s absolutely vile to invite the mother to the white house, offer to pay, and then later rescind that offer.

    If he’d never offered it wouldn’t matter.

    This is just so so abhorrent, even for trump.

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      13 days ago

      Racism aside, if I offered someone to help pay for a funeral, I’d choke in my coffee too if I the bill said $60.000 .

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        True, but you also wouldn’t have the world’s largest economy and one of, if not the, largest governmental budget in the world like Trump does.

        And he also wasn’t paying for it out of his own pocket, it’d come from whatever federal budget covers the costs of military/veteran funerals.

        The entire motivation behind this is clearly racism and sexism, plus his overall disdain for veterans/our military in general. Probably stems from a jealousy he has, since veterans tend to automatically be held in higher esteem than grifters like himself, and he knows he could never have handled bootcamp, nevermind the actual military.

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          He actually did say he was going to pay for it personally, the military might cover some component of it, but it’s in the article saying that he couldn’t reimburse the family through the government:

          Natalie Khawam, the family’s attorney, responded, “I think the military will be paying—taking care of it.” Trump replied, “Good. They’ll do a military. That’s good. If you need help, I’ll help you out.” Later, a reporter covering the meeting asked Trump, “Have you offered to do that for other families before?” Trump responded, “I have. I have. Personally. I have to do it personally. I can’t do it through government.” The reporter then asked: “So you’ve written checks to help for other families before this?” Trump turned to the family, still present, and said, “I have, I have, because some families need help … Maybe you don’t need help, from a financial standpoint. I have no idea what—I just think it’s a horrific thing that happened. And if you did need help, I’m going to—I’ll be there to help you.”

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        Yes, but you wouldn’t:

        • offer to pay
        • without any stipulations
        • while on TV
        • while in the white house
        • as a person that brags about their wealth
        • for a funeral
        • of a military person
        • in a high profile murder

        Any idiot could see that the funeral was going to get out of hand.

        If Trump said he’d by me lunch it’d be the most expensive lunch in history.

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          If someone offers to pay your lunch, or in this case for the funeral of your murdered child, trying to make it ‘the most expensive in history’ to fully abuse that offer just makes you a Sad. person imo. Imagine having it done to you.

          To reiterate: It’d make me happy Donnie almost dies in a fire but is kept in a conscious coma for hundreds of years

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            Well, I don’t care at all if you think I’m sad, but you may have missed your point.

            If my neighbour offered to buy me lunch I would politely insist on contributing in my own way. I don’t really want people to buy things for me. That said, I dislike Trump immensely, he brags about his wealth, and if he offered to pay for something for me because the optics look good, I would absolutely abuse that offer. If it were for my daughters funeral presumably that would occupy my thoughts and I wouldn’t politicise it by using my daughters funeral as a way to steal from trump, but there would be no fucks given about the cost.

            My point is, “someone” offering to buy me lunch is not at all the same as Trump offering to buy me lunch while interviewing me on TV in the whitehouse because it makes him look good.

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              Sure, I can understand trying to find ways to ‘get’ Trump, but seeing something that is still somewhat of an act of generosity as an opportunity to scam someone…

              Anyway a) he was probably never going to pay this out of his own personal pocket and b) this just resulted in this family to have to pay for their absurdly lavish funeral themselves

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                  I know, it’s like Oprah giving away cars. But still, takes a special person to see that as an opportunity to scam them

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                    takes a special person

                    No, it really doesn’t.

                    When someone brags about their wealth, and offers you free stuff without stipulation or limitation, the recipient is going to accept that offer. Any recipient.

                    It takes a special person to offer financial support to a grieving mother because it’s looks great on television, and later withdraw that support.

                    Oh look at this terrible calamity that has befallen you, why don’t you take this very nice thing that you can’t afford to make you feel better wink, I’ll surprise you with the bill for it once it’s too late and you can manage the burden of crushing debt as well as your grief at the loss of your child.

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          Sure, and all disrespect for trump but say I’m rich and crash my car into your fence and tell you “it’s fine just send me the bill”, there’s a difference when that bill turns out to be 60k

          Sounds a bit like the family chose the 'Royale" because of his promise

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            In that case though they either pay it or get sued. Especially if they have receipts from the company for the work.

            Don’t extend generosity no questions asked if you don’t want to follow up on the consequences.