• Draces@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Still, again, my point is regarding what is implied in this article which is that Musk is paying people to vote for Trump. You do agree that this is not the case, correct?

    No. Musk goes to a rally and says vote for Trump to preserve your first amendment rights then offers money to people pledging to support first amendment rights. Stop playing dumb

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      12 days ago

      I find it frustrating that people want to call me out for calling out the media but no one wants to hold the media accountable - especially when it supports your existing narrative.

      It is a fact that Musk is not buying votes. There is no exchange of money for proof of voting for anyone. He is potentially illegally asking people to sign a petition which requires they be a registered voter and giving them money for signing a petition. That’s the story.

      Every article posted across the internet is full of misinformation and lies to promote existing narratives and agendas. People need to wake up and hold each other accountable for this. Not just when it’s in opposition to your feelings but also when it supports them.

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        12 days ago

        By this logic it’s historically impossible to buy votes since you can’t go into the polling location with them. Buying a view is an agreement about what a person has agreed to vote for. Musk has made a very clear offer to give money for someone who agrees to support the first amendment and that a vote for Trump is supporting the the first amendment. If the person doesn’t vote for Trump, by Musk’s stated beliefs, they are not supporting the first amendment and therefore disqualified from receiving the money. He is attempting to buy votes.

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          11 days ago

          You could very easily take a photo to show proof of who you voted for in order to get paid. Plus, voting records aren’t 100% private.

          Legally, the argument that he’s specifically trying to pay people to vote for Trump would get thrown out of court.

          I would personally argue that Trump is very much opposed to, or in favor of restrictions to, the first and second amendments (as is Musk) while Harris intends to uphold them. So, from my perspective, I see this as enticement to vote for Harris.

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            11 days ago

            No I don’t think you could take a picture of your ballet in the 19th century when it was ruled illegal. So if it was illegal when the exchange was entirely faith based, how are reasoning pictures changes anything? That’s not why the law was created and this exchange can absolutely be considered vote buying

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        12 days ago

        Don’t pay them any mind. Theyre just random people on the internet. I’ve found lemmy to be a pretty hostle place for questions asked in good faith. I did figure out the answer though. So he’s only giving people in a specific state the ability to enter into his little raffle. I’m not eligible because I’m not a registered voter in a swing state. This is why it’s a federal crime.

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          12 days ago

          I would imagine that paying money to sign your petition is also problematic.