• Zonen-Ranslite@feddit.org
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    29 days ago

    I am a german, I know what that means, but baerbock isn’t doing a genocide. What annoys me is, oh look, a German says something, he is Hitler. Btw, where are you from?

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      Being German seems to make people less able to see the similarities. Almost as if your public education system has whitewashed the history, material realities, and tenor of Nazis and the Holocaust using the most effective means to do so: by having a strict and thorough public education system that discusses the overall topic to a large degree but leaves out any ability for Germans to recognize current yet rhyming causes, undercurrents, rhetoric and actions of genocidal racial supremacists. Germans can recognize a Swastika and (sometimes) punch someone for waving it around (some others still might salute it) but not the Lebensraum rhetoric from Israel, the ghettoization of Palestine, the genocide of Palestiniand, nor their own country’s role in promoting all of these things for what it is. One thing that should not be hard to recognize is the flipping of aggressor into victim, of attack into a defense. That was Nazi rhetoric 101. Would you have symlathized with the “oppression” of “Aryans” by Jewish people? The “Judeo-Bolsheviks”!? Sounds like the answer could be yes.

      Please do some reflection on what ethnic supremacy, genocide, and settler colonialism are - i.e. very Nazi things - and whether you oppose them.

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        28 days ago

        I never denied that Israel is committing war crimes. I only said that Baerbock is not committing genocide, which is the core message of this Baerbock-Hitler picture.

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          28 days ago

          I never denied that Israel is committing war crimes.

          So is this you now downplaying the genocide? As in genocide denial? Because I said nothing about war crimes but I did refer to ghettos and genocide.

          I only said that Baerbock is not committing genocide, which is the core message of this Baerbock-Hitler picture.

          She’s just materially, diplomatically, and rhetorically supporting one. Do you get the reference now? Wiederholen sie auf Deutsch: “I should be against genocide. The Nazis did genocide and many people helped them. If I support genocide people will compare me to Hitler and they will have a point.”

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              28 days ago

              Genocide has occurred through many different mechanisms. You are dithering about the exact form in order to engage in genocide denial. You should be ashamed.

              The Nazis’ genocide was not only their death camps, either, which you would know if you cared about the history or this topic. They would massacre entire villages, turn neighborhoods into ghettos and kill entire masse, including when they fought back (like the Warsaw Ghetto), they would shoot individuals on the spot when they were located. They would siege civilian centers and starve or kill at will.

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                  28 days ago

                  Yes of course I support the resistance against genocidal apartheid, thank you for the compliment. You think I would be upset by comparison to the ANC or WWII partisans?

                  Of course you have no real response to what I said, your genocide denial is a form of cowardice.

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                    28 days ago

                    So you’re just a religious fanatic, blinded by propaganda. Hamas is just as criminal as Israel, both bring death and misery to the people. Partisans, I’m not laughing.

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      29 days ago

      Yes, she is literally a part of a government that is currently actively involved in a genocide conducted in Gaza. Germans are supplying the weapons used by Israel and Germany is directly complicit. I’m from Canada, and Canada is also complicit. I have no problem criticizing the actions of my government and their fascist policies.

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      28 days ago

      Genocide-apologetic German asking for someone else’s nationality? Where have I seen this before?