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    “Idaho senator born in another state tells Native American congressional candidate from a tribe native to the state to “go back where you came from.”

    It would have been a much wordier headline but relays a lot more pertinent information.

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        An ideology of “I won’t listen to you because I’m motivated to oppress everyone else for my own gain,” is, most definitely, going to make the world worse. And this will be entirely on purpose, and no one will apologise.

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          i agree with you; however thinking of your adversaries as simplistic evil masks any intelligence there might be in their actions. i think it’s better to believe that they think they’re doing the right things; simply misinformed by either the people who are supposed to educate them or through willful ignorance. that way, you can better understand their human driven actions and why they took the action they made.

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            that way, you can better understand their human driven actions

            It’s easy to understand hurting others for profit. It’s not even slightly interesting, and the world would be better without it.

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              very few people want to hurt others themselves; instead they turn their backs and let someone/something else do it and enable the system that lets them behave like this; like ongoing the palestinian genocide.

              to be clear: they are voilence-thirsty war mongers; but labeling them as so removes them from the realm of “normal people” and into a realm where they’re not help accountable because they don’t LOOK like the depictions violence-thirsty war mongers that they’ve experienced.

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      Idaho State Sen. Dan Foreman, a conservative Republican

      Said this to

      Trish Carter-Goodheart, a Democrat running for a House seat

      Always use names. The veil of “a politician said” or “big company does” is too blinding. Name and shame.

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      Which state someone is from isn’t what people care about.

      *Y’all are some funny misreaders. I don’t support him, I’m just saying these idiots don’t care about the state. Focusing on state for some reason is weird.

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        It isn’t, but to be fair, it absolutely does add an additional layer of irony that they weren’t even born there.

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        “where you come from doesn’t matter” says someguy3 in defense of a racist colonist telling someone to go back where they came from while actively living on their land.

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          ??? I don’t support him, I’m just saying these idiots don’t care about the state.

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        The point is the hypocrisy. Telling someone to go back where they came from in a place where you aren’t from either is hypocritical as fuck.

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          pointing out hypocrisy is so pointless. does anyone on the left not realize that they’re all hypocrites? please raise your hand if you need that explained.

          ok. next issue on the docket: what are we going to do about it?

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          Yeah these idiots don’t care if they’re not from that state. They (the idiots) claim the US. Yes that’s the hypocrisy. I don’t know why everyone is so focused on state hypocrisy all of a sudden like that’s the “gotcha, you can’t be racist now”. Racism is far deeper and stupider than that.

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            I don’t know why everyone is so focused on state hypocrisy all of a sudden like that’s the “gotcha, you can’t be racist now”.

            They aren’t? They’re just pointing out he’s a hypocrite. I’m not sure why you don’t think that’s a damnation.

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                    What calls to effective action? I haven’t seen any calls. You didn’t even make any.

                    And no, I don’t know how to run a covert communications network and I don’t even know what you mean by ‘a cell that is ready to take action.’ A terrorist cell?

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              The comment I responded to:

              “Idaho senator born in another state tells Native American congressional candidate from a tribe native to the state to “go back where you came from.”

              Literally focused on state. That’s precisely the exacting point they were making. Like how do you read that and not think that was about the state.

              And yes I think there is hypocrite damnation. Like how do you misread so badly that you think I don’t jfc. The hypocrite damnation belongs on the national level, not the state level. It doesn’t go away just because you’re from that state.

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                I don’t even understand what you’re saying. The guy is a hypocrite because the woman he told to go back where she came from was from the tribe that literally came from that land they were on, while he came from Illinois.

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                  Dude I bolded where the comment I replied to was about the state. I can’t make it any clearer than that.

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                    flying squid just likes to drive engagement because they’re a lemmy addict. arguing with them is about as useless as arguing with a conservative.

                    ignore these people and focus on garnering support for final solutions. the people are getting close to being as fed up as they can be. all we need is a populace that’s ready to act on a push notification.

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        I dunno. At some level, when all hope is gone, I find myself hoping the state where I live hasn’t gone full fascist.