• Aniki 🌱🌿@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    Why do you care more about one person than your culture of murdering whales? Why do you speak up about him but not your tradition that you apparently don’t participate in??

    • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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      3 months ago

      So the person who said this rhetoric breeds racism and xenophobia is now being demanded to renounce their culture and apologize for the actions of other people (just because they’re the same ethnicity)…

      Sounds like they were right.

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        3 months ago

        No amount of whaling is currently sustainable, and won’t be for many generations.

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          3 months ago

          Long-finned pilot whale, Atlantic white-sided dolphin. Neither are endangered, on the contrary: Both are listed as Least Concern.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        3 months ago

        Gross. Whales are intelligent, social creatures. That’s like eating chimpanzee.

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            3 months ago

            Maybe they also don’t eat pigs? I eat meat (FUCK chickens), but I haven’t eaten pork for years after getting to know my neighbors pet pigs. Sure, they’re more socialized and a whole different breed from factory farm pigs, but still they’re too smart for me to be comfortable eating them. But my point here is that you’re accusing them of hypocrisy or inconsistency, without ever establishing that they actually are being hypocritical or inconsistent.

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                3 months ago

                is that no one gets outraged, justifys harassing people and wished death upon their entire family and country for eating pigs.

                You uh… wanna bet about that one?

                Values a culture finds truly abhorrent are combated. You’re using the same arguments people use to defend confederate monuments, or anti-LGBT laws. It’s tragic that your traditions cause harm, but just because they’re traditional and your culture doesn’t mean they’re not disgustingly cruel.

                Yeah, we need to either stop or wildly reform factory farming. No argument there. But just because you think it’s cultural imperialism doesn’t make it reasonable to torture other creatures to death.

                The big difference here is that, while I will absolutely admit to and work damn hard to change my own culture, you can’t even admit the cruelty inherent to your own traditions. My tribe used to hunt whales. We saw the barbarity of it. We stopped. Why are you special?

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          3 months ago

          That’s not really a good take though. You don’t need to be intelligent or social to be worthy of the moral consideration to not be eaten. Otherwise we’d be eating babies.

          • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            3 months ago

            Yeah, that doesn’t logically follow. Nobody said it’s the one, singular consideration.

            You’re comparing a species of animal (whale) to the age of an animal (baby). Two completely different things…