• Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    What do you think Trump will do differently?

    If you’re a single issue voter and still voting for the worst of those two options you’re a baffoon.

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      3 months ago

      Will not support this. Do better next time. No, there is no argument that can justify support for those who fund it.

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        3 months ago

        So you instead choose even more of that with Donald. Or you are saying the Muslim bans and “finish the job” won’t lead to ramping up the attacks? The Christian nationalist heading Congress isn’t looking to start the apocalypse and rapture? Lindsey Graham isn’t saying Israel should nuke Gaza and that the US did nothing wrong in Hiroshima?

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          3 months ago

          Maybe that will be enough to shock neoliberals awake as to the reality of what they’redealing with, maybe not, but it’s the only shot we’ve got. We can’t afford any more lesser evil, we’ve reached rock bottom with this genocide.

          We’re not just backsliding slowly, we’re at the bottom of the hill.

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            Shocking neoliberals awake will do fuckall when they are living under a dictatorship that a (I know you’re confused by this concept) Repub-appointed SCOTUS is considering granting a Long Knife to.

            There will be more genocide and more war. There will be nothing at all anyone can do since the “let’s get the National Guard in” and “deport these protesters to Gaza” guys will be in charge.

            We are literally in a comment section discussing the Repub candidate wanting to execute people over whatever slights. Please get a clue. No, it is not as bad as it could be.

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              3 months ago

              They might finally actually admit it’s a dictatorship and start behaving accordingly.

              But yeah, they could cling to their denial. That’s already happening right now though. The shock still has a better chance than the slow boil though, slim a chance as it is neoliberals will ever wake up.

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                That’s so delusional. “Sure, it will become a full Christofascist theocracy, but people might become aware of that, so it is better.” You have childish hot takes on the matter.

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                  3 months ago

                  How is it childish? What’s more dangerous; a public that slowly acclimates to fascism or one that is shocked into action at its immediacy?

                  All you have to offer is more slow decline. That’s the opposite of what I want. This conversation kind of demonstrates why the only hail-mary left is shocking you guys back to reality. It’s literally the only option you’ve left anti-fascists.

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                  3 months ago

                  I’ll be voting in a way that most clearly sends the message to the Democrats why they lost my vote, which is voting Uncommitted for the presidential.

                  I am lucky enough to have a progressive running as a state rep to unseat a Republican so I’ll be turning out for their sake mainly.

                  • I’m sure the Democrats will consider your message carefully as Trump starts bombing those brown kids.

                    Parties cater to voters, not to non-voters. If the voters chose Trump, they will move towards his policies, including on Israel. You will achieve the opposite of what you want.

                    But I’m sure the Palestinians will appreciate the hollow gesture.

                    I can understand your principles, but the world, and specifically the US election system, doesn’t give a shit about them. Not voting always results in the party you dislike most gaining an advantage. That is the net result of your actions.

                    Hold your nose if you must, but Palestinians can’t afford a Republican president. Biden, for all his many faults, at least pushes for a peace.