• li10@feddit.uk
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    7 months ago

    I feel like this is very dismissive and also ignores that lots of relationships do inevitably start with vague signals.

    “Yeah, well, women have it worse so your feelings are irrelevant and it’s okay if they ghost you.”

    As I said in my original comment, I get it. But it doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s a difficult situation for men.

    Being dismissive of men’s feelings and not letting them talk about how dating is difficult for them isn’t helping anyone.

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      7 months ago

      I didn’t intend to be dismissive and if my response sounded that way then I apologise.

      I agree it’s difficult to be on the receiving end of vague signals, but my perspective is if there’s any annoyance or frustration it should be directed at the violent/angry men who have caused women to feel unsafe.

      Helping women feel safer by tackling the violence and misogyny directed at them by men will benefit everyone.

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        7 months ago

        The main thing for me is to remember it’s not personal. When a stranger treats me as a potential threat, it is not an insult to my character.

        Being treated as a threat by someone who knows my character, is an insult to my character.

        But when a stranger models me as a stranger, it’s not personal at all. It’s not about me. Not a reflection of who I am.

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      7 months ago

      It’s also dismissive of the fact that a lot of women give vague signs as their signs of interest. It’s really just a damned if you do or don’t situation. Either you interpret the vague signals as disinterest and move on, or you read them as a potential go ahead and you’re a dick.

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      7 months ago

      I think one should be rather dismissive of “it would be easier for me if others engaged in behaviours that have resulted in their being abused”.

      Your fucking convenience doesn’t come before their sense of safety.

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        7 months ago

        Men can’t reproduce. The fear of never getting a woman to love us is fucking scary to men because our feelings evolved around a total dependence on women to propagate our genes.

        For a man, the relationship to a woman is just as valuable as his own body, in terms of viability of his genes. The types of fear we feel reflect this biological fact. We fear death yes, because death means our genes don’t reproduce. We also fear rejection for the same reason.