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      Restaurants menus lacking milk as a drinking option is definitely a positive for me - I do not wish to dine alongside whatever freak chooses to drink milk with their meal.

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          Cow boob juice is for baby cows. Human boob juice is for baby humans. Adults of any species should have developed past ingesting boob juice in childhood.

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            Come on dude. Don’t tell me you’ve never drunk milk as an adult. Be honest lmfao

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              I’ve never drank milk as an adult, and I honestly don’t know if I can think of anyone I’ve ever known that has ordered milk alone (not in coffee or something) as an adult and drank it. I’m not white though, so idk. But a lot of my friends and coworkers are, and I’ve never seen it.

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      I mean, I just annoyed that milk isn’t even an option in a lot of restaurants. It’s something so basic, like.

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          I like how the small fraction of adults that drink milk are downvoting you for actually giving helpful advice. Lol

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    Some this has to do with shelf life. Beverages containing alcohol have a long shelf life. A restaurant is not going to take losses on having 50 kinds of juice or whatever on hand. Another angle to this is that a lot of the drinks on the alcoholic menu are cocktails, so just combinations of other shit they have. Finally, what adult is just drinking milk? Have some water, it is good for you.

    • VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world
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      With having IBD I’m pretty much limited to water or milk. I’m absolutely going to drink milk when I can because I get fed up drinking water multiple times a day every fucking day.

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        I guess, I primarily drink water. I’m not restricted in the same way, but I’m an innate fat fuck, so water is my drink of choice. I’m surprised milk wouldn’t inflame IBD.

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          The concept of being fed up with water is so alien to me. Water doesn’t have some powerful, delicious flavor but the sensation of drinking water is almost always one of satisfying refreshment.

          How can you be irritated by water? “Damn it, this is only exactly what my body needs!”

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      This thread has been so weird for me because apparently something I’ve always done without ever giving any thought to is weird to people. I don’t give a fuck. It’s all in jest, anyways.

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        I find it pretty disgusting to even watch on TV or something (McPoyles), but I don’t sit around staring at people eating or drinking things that I find distasteful so I can judge them; in general I try to not judge people for having different tastes and tolerances than me.

        We could definitely have a dinner and you can have a tall frothy glass of milk right from the cow’s udder with it. If you’re fun to talk to and aren’t mean, we good.

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      Almost 70% of the global population of adult humans are lactose intolerant. Whether you think drinking milk as an adult is weird or not, it isn’t something most human adults can easily do without digestive problems, and, because of that, it’s somewhat unusual to many people.

      Edit: I definitely think of drinking milk as a white people thing. Similarly I think of men showering without using a washcloth as a white people thing. Neither are true of all white people, they’re just stereotypes I have, I guess.

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        It’s extremely regional though. Lactose intolerance is definitely the minority in the English-speaking world that would be on here.

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          English is the most spoken language in the world.

          Demographically speaking, the highest percentage of lactose tolerant people are some variation of white, western or northern European. So in that sense, yes, it is a very narrowly defined segment of adults in terms of regional location and/or regional derivation for whom the majority of adults can comfortably drink a glass of milk.

          Are you subtly trying to say you assume most people on Lemmy are white? Or rather that somehow speaking English contributes to the ability to create the lactase enzyme? Both seem like incorrect assumptions at best. Regardless, dismissing 70% of the planet because you just arbitrarily assume they aren’t on Lemmy is… weird.

          Perhaps you just meant you assume the majority of people on Lemmy are American or European? In which case you’re still looking at 40% of adults that can’t easily digest milk. That’s just the people physically predisposed to find it disgusting. There is surely also some amount of people that are lactose tolerant that also think adults drinking a glass of milk is weird.

          It’s pretty clear just by reading this thread that there pretty mixed opinions about the idea of an adult drinking a glass of milk. Some find it viscerally disgusting and others find it completely normal.

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            Yeah, I’m assuming most people are American or European. I think 40% is a high estimate, but even among the lactose intolerant people I know in real life, I’ve never met one who thinks drinking milk is weird. Most even consume dairy products, just lactose-free versions or enduring the consequences.

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              I’m sure you “think” a lot of things. Unless you hang out exclusively with white people, there are a lot of people that think drinking a glass of milk is weird. They just don’t tell you, because they’re polite.

              If you’re in the United States, perhaps you’ve heard of the show It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. The show characterizes the McPoyles as particularly weird people. One of the ways they create that characterization? Them guzzling milk.

              Dairy “products” are a different concern. Most people produce some level of lactase, but a glass of cow’s milk is a separate thing.

              Aged cheese, for instance, is a different thing. Why would aging cheese add distinct flavors? Because bacteria is digesting the sugars (lact-OSE) and converting it into other things.

              I love cabot cheddar myself for cheap stuff. If you want to know the lactose content of cheese or other dairy products, if there are no added sugars, just check the sugar content. That’s lactose. If it says zero, it’s near zero.

              I’ve never met an adult in my life, of any color, that orders a glass of milk and drinks it. I’m sure it happens, but I guess just not in the circles I run in.

              You’d have to actually be around people regularly to see that it’s unusual. If you’re just in your own house or with the same people every time you go out, then no one is going to mention it.

              Honestly, it’s unusual. I make a high salary and part of my job requires regularly socializing with new people–clients, investors, new friends, etc.

              I’ve never seen a grown adult order a glass of milk and drink it. I wouldn’t judge someone for doing it, but I would criticize their perspective if they thought that was normal, and I would try to figure out the context they’re from where that’s normal behavior, purely out of curiosity. If they’re already in a social environment with me, there’s already some social capital committed, so I’m interested to know more about why someone would think that’s normal behavior.

              “Internet guy that likes Halo” does not qualify, so, while I think you’re being obtuse, I don’t care enough about you to continue this conversation.

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    I feel like this joke would have landed better 5, or maybe even 3 years ago. Every even remotely fancy restaurant I go into has jumped on the mocktail bandwagon and offers plenty of options for people avoiding alcohol.

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      Even then, it’s not really accurate anyway. A cocktail is a bunch of ingredients mixes together. You can usually get them without the alcohol if you ask for it (obviously this doesn’t work for every drink). They list of cocktails is so large because there’s a lot of ways to combine a few ingredients to make different things. They don’t actually stock that many types of drinks or anything. They’re made on demends, and can usually be modified if you ask.

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        If you can remove the alcohol from any “cocktail” and still have more than just flavored ice or a dirty glass, you were drinking slightly alcoholic mocktails the whole time.

        Old Fashioned mocktail is a cherry on top of a large ice cube that you’ve used to bludgeon some sugar and an orange.

        A Sazerac mocktail is akin to an empty glass someone just drink a sweet lemony drink from. You don’t get the lemony drink, just the dirty glass.

        A margarita mocktail is salty lime flavored ice. This is basically a daquiri mocktail too, adding a strawberry seems popular.

        A Manhattan mocktail is a sweetened cherry in an otherwise empty glass.

        A mojito mocktail is a bit more substantial, minty sugar water with a hint of lime.

        A mint julep mocktail, again just minty sugar water.

        A white Russian mocktail is just a glass of cream over ice.

        A mimosa mocktail is just a nearly empty glass of orange juice.

        The non-alcoholic parts of a cocktail are rarely more than a quarter of the volume if they’re made properly. Most cocktails are a half oz of sugar water and a citrus flavor. The other 2/3 of the volume (not counting the ice) is alcohol. Just order a soda, soda water (with or without a garnish), tea, or my favorite a Topo Chico and lime.

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          One virgin martini please. Stirred.

          handed cool glass with three olives in it

          Thank you, kind sir!

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              First of all, a vodka martini isn’t a classic martini. That’s why you have to say “vodka” before martini if that’s what you’re ordering. A martini is made at any reputable establishment with gin. I’m sure you could say “rum martini” and any established bartender would raise an eyebrow but make your order.

              That said, I order my martini the same way every time: pure Everclear stirred with a single ice cube. Wave a bottle of vermouth over the glass while looking in the direction of France.

              One olive or three, never even numbers. I’m not a savage.

              Then after I’ve vomited on the bar, they wheel me home on a dolly.

              Edit: my actual standard order is Beefeater, extra dry, one olive. Keep it simple and classic.