Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.
How to watch it:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html
"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.
You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."
"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.
Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."
Edit And that’s it! Thanks for watching everyone!
tl;dw:
Consensus is Trump didn’t so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.
The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.
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Will be interesting to see how many dozens of comments we get here tonight.
WE ARE SO FUCKED
So they’re gonna replace Biden now right??
I sure hope so.
To the people who are calling Biden “toast” three minutes into the debate: Fuck off.
First impressions matter. Most people won’t watch the debate. Of the people that do, most people won’t watch all of it. He isn’t doing a good job.
They lowered expectations for Trump way too much.
And if Biden doesn’t get it together immediately, it’s time to consider a new candidate. This is a disaster so far.
Agreed.
I seriously doubt it but I really hope this is a wake-up call for Democrats. I remain convinced that Biden voluntarily stepping down and permitting a younger more charismatic figure in his place will be all that is needed to win, and I say this for a few reasons:
- By the polling, age is a huge issue for a significant majority of Americans, with it clearly harming Biden more.
- Any youthful semi-in-the-shadows candidate will be fresh for Americans, who will be excited for anything different.
- The right-wing talking-points won’t be pre-written.
- By Biden & Democrats getting ahead of this and saying, “look we recognize the electorate’s concerns and what’s at stake and we know the people by large majorities don’t want either President, so we’re responding,” they would get major points.
Call it a reverse-October surprise.
That being said, this is the earliest debate ever and Trump still needs to go through sentencing in July. People won’t really remember this debate, but it certainly did not help Biden in any capacity.
Dude, democrats are killing it in every other metric this election season. We got some serious swing state polling right now. You are exactly right that if we can get someone new and more progressive, it would be a slam dunk.
Hell, conservative media is pretty scared right now that this very thing may happen. They know it would not just hurt their chances, it would fuckin’ bomb them.
What I saw up there was elder abuse. That was sad for Biden and sad that the DNC cancelled primaries for this when they knew this was happening.
Oh shit. The height and weight comment was amazing.
Trump is on Ozempic, no doubt.
What does that even mean?
If Biden is going to be replaced it has to be a huge name like AOC or Bernie. It’s too late to campaign anyone newer
Gavin Newsome? He’s got name recognition and notoriety.
Nope.
Eh progress is a bus ride not an Uber. I’d rather a centrist than a fascist.
“I don’t think he knows what he said either.”
That was a fucking kill shot.
Yup.
I voted for Biden and I’ll vote for him again to keep a fascist out of office, but it is quite clear that the best thing Democrats could do is to have Biden back out and put forth a younger charismatic candidate. Age and the excitement about someone fresh would be enough to sweep this. That’s just a reflection of what polls are already telling us. The debate just started, but it’s quite clear that the optics of a debate thus far are going to Trump.
100% agree. Imagine Buttigieg up there running circles around Trump.
This was the single hardest thing to watch in my entire life. RIP usa your fates sealed
Enjoy your fascist hellscape.
Unfortunately the ramifications will, rest assured, be global. So you’ll get to enjoy it too! Yay!
Serious question, for anyone masochistic enough to still be watching: Has Biden’s performance improved enough to negate the moment that will be on every GOP attack ad for the next 5 months, or does he still look like he needs to be walked back into his room and told that no, it’s not 1975 any more…
No, not really. He still looks confused and is still muttering.
Take a shot anytime someone says “by the way”. No one will have to vote because we’ll all be dead
I’m on my second beer of the night, does a six pack of Modelo have enough alcohol to kill me? I’m small if that helps.
Maybe if you actually take it as a shot… like a syringe.
Bidens closing statement wasn’t strong… but nothing about his performance has been strong.
Biden got his ass kicked.
Oh. My. God.
It’s literally two old-as-fuck fucks arguing about their golf swings. This is literally how the debate is coming to a close. I just… I don’t even know what to say.
