Nearly two-thirds of Democrats say President Joe Biden should withdraw from the presidential race and let his party nominate a different candidate, according to a new poll, sharply undercutting his post-debate claim that “average Democrats” are still with him even if some “big names” are turning on him.

The new survey by the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, conducted as Biden works to salvage his candidacy two weeks after his debate flop, also found that only about 3 in 10 Democrats are extremely or very confident that he has the mental capability to serve effectively as president, down slightly from 40% in an AP-NORC poll in February.

The findings underscore the challenges the 81-year-old president faces as he tries to silence calls from within his own party to leave the race and tries to convince Democrats that he’s the best candidate to defeat Donald Trump. The poll was conducted mostly before Saturday’s assassination attempt on Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania. It’s unclear whether the shooting influenced people’s views of Biden, but the small number of poll interviews completed after the shooting provided no early indication that his prospects improved.

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    Nope, because most of that is legislation Biden has taken credit for.

    How about top 3 that Biden did?

    Not just legislation that he signed, three things that we got because Biden has the big desk and not literally anyone else with a D by their name.

    If you can find 3 things on that list let me know

    If not, you just proved my point, that everything on that list would have happened if it was another Dem in office.

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      CTRL+F “executive order”

      • (farming) …executive order directing agencies across the government to promote competition and take on monopolies.
      • (pot) … executive order directing the Department of Health and Human Services to conduct a review of all available cannabis science
      • (AI) … executive order starts the clock for more than a dozen federal agencies to figure out what the gold standard for “safe, secure and trustworthy” AI handling should be for their own operations

      And that’s just the little stuff you didn’t notice – not the big stuff like the SAVE Plan for student debt (also an executive order) or caregiver support.

      I guess that is besides the point, which seems to be redefining everything Biden has done as ineligible. I’m guessing you’d say Regan gets no credit for ending the Berlin Wall since HE didn’t tear it down.

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        So…

        Your three examples of Biden accomplishing something…

        Is three times he told federal agencies to “look into” things?

        No examples of him actually doing anything?

        That’s the best you can find?

        Quick edit:

        Can we skip ahead to where you say no president has power to do anything?

        Then I point out how that undermines Biden’s entire campaign and means the only thing that’s important is picking a popular and charismatic candidate and Biden is both historically unpopular and while charismatic for an 81 year old that’s not a very high standard?

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          Sigh.

          Those weren’t MY points. It was just proof you do not choose to read. You said:

          Not just legislation that he signed, three things that we got because Biden has the big desk and not literally anyone else with a D by their name.

          The reply was the politico piece, and you claimed nothing on it counted. I checked. You were wrong. I posted 3 you missed and added two more (with links) which you ALSO ignored.

          I didn’t bother with obvious stuff like defending Ukraine, strengthening alliances that had faltered, or surging the economy (especially since I think most economic stuff is a lagging indicator if under any Presidential control at all). If you weren’t going to read the politico article, why waste my time? I only waste my time now so the trolling becomes obvious to all.

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            Not just legislation that he signed, three things that we got because Biden has the big desk and not literally anyone else with a D by their name.

            Right …

            And you told me three times Biden told a federal agency to “look into” something.

            Hell, one of those was even a campaign promise from last primary four years ago. Nothing was accomplished.

            I didn’t bother with obvious stuff

            That stuff any Dem would have done.

            Bruh, you quoted the question, did you not read it? How are you trying to answer it already?

            Not just legislation that he signed, three things that we got because Biden has the big desk and not literally anyone else with a D by their name.

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      Yeah, I didn’t point it out earlier, but you were already changing goalposts in the prior response.

      President is not just signing bills, but also leading Democrats, and negotiates with Republicans to get bills passed. How do you think the bill to help Ukraine passed in April? Johnson just had a change of heart out of nowhere

      This is why trump accomplished very little legislatively, he basically doesn’t know about making compromises.

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        President is not just signing bills, but also leading Democrats negotiated with Republicans to get bills passed

        Expect Biden said publicly and repeatedly that even changing a Dems mind would be impossible so trying would be a waste of effort…

        Do you disagree with Biden on that?

        If so, why do you still want him as president when he thinks your reason for why it should be him is not his job?

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          Huh?

          Because he maybe did bad in the first debate (because apparently looking more energetic is more important than actually making sense), but his administration does an excellent governing job.

          We already know how he is governing, what his foreign policy is.

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            How about top 3 that Biden did?

            Not just legislation that he signed, three things that we got because Biden has the big desk and not literally anyone else with a D by their name.

            Why keep replying when you can’t do that?