• JinFox@lemmy.world
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    One could argue that so called “traditions” they are holding so much dearly in their heart never was fully a thing and is just the product of past idealizations and marketing propaganda. “The perfect suburban american trad family” from the 60s is a construct made by marketing people to sell fridges, diamond and beautiful car.

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      Idealizing a fake era of greatness which came before the weak, but also very powerful bad people took it away.

      Now where have I heard that one before? 🤔

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            Climate change is a thing and back then life was cheaper, this “MuH WhIte PeOpLe” shit needs to stop. 80s and 90s were not some sort of ethnonationalist world where black people were genocided.

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              I thought we were talking about the 1960s? You know, the era that where black people didn’t have civil rights or even voting rights in some places legally until the middle of the decade and were still being lynched in significant numbers? The era where both Malcolm X and Dr. King were assassinated?

              I stand by my comment.

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                Again, I repeat: climate crisis automatically makes the current times worse.

                Were it for me, 70s, 80s and 90s on a loop forever.

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                  Sorry… worse than the prospect of getting lynched and not having basic civil rights?

                  That’s quite the position of privilege you’re coming from.

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                    Climate. Crisis. Is. A. Thing. And. Will. Not. Spare. Anyone.

                    You Americans should stop be so fixated on “muh race”, because civil rights are not going to save you from 120F weather and not being able to buy a house.

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                  Wait, vietnam, forcing nuclear tests on unwilling island population, the tatcher years. The LITTERAL HOLE in the ozone layer (hey, we fixed that one yay us, just for this one bit, the climate is still fucked). Not saying your feelings are invalid, but you are cherry picking what 70s, 80s and 90s means to you, it is not a full picture of how bad it was for bunch of people. yes, stuff were cheaper back then and some people could afford house, but misplaced nostalgia past some cultural artifact isn’t really acknowledging the continuity of how shit human can be to each other for made up reasons.

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      “The perfect suburban american trad family” from the 60s

      Had one working parent and stay at home moms. But they don’t give a single fuck about that part of it, do they?

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          “Nobody paid that. They just reinvested in their company [and their employees and reputation] instead.”

          No shit. Sounds great. Let’s do that.

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            The world is honestly too far into the crumbles for it to work like that anymore, they would just use circuitous accounting to funnel it into bunkers, militarized yachts, private armies, and extra planetary fever dreams.

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              Can’t just give up though. It’s one step towards making things better.

              We don’t have to solve it all at once.