• Reality Suit@lemmy.one
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    12 hours ago

    Musk is a fucking anti American liability. How the fuck does he have access to military contracts

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      11 hours ago

      Well, despite its owner, SpaceX is actually doing cool and useful stuff. Nobody else bothered with the reusable rocket thing until they made it happen. Starship is on the way to becoming the world’s first 100% reusable orbital transport system, propulsively landing the second stage as well as the first. Soon as they get those toasty melty flaps figured out.

      It just sucks that he’s in control of it.

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        10 hours ago

        People forget Musk isn’t actually technically smart, he’s just good at buying into and investing in already good ideas using money he got by playing the capital machine (and his parents south africa money).
        He didn’t found PayPal; he merged another company with them and capitalized on their already good idea.
        He didn’t found Tesla, he invested in them and then drove the original founders out.
        He did admittedly create SpaceX, but only by bringing on good engineers from the start after failing to buy ICBM’s from Russia. Yes, he tried that… spaceX has been successful only because he gave them the runway to let engineers work right.

        The cult of personality is insane, he’s just another average investor bro who got lucky in the crazy growth of the 90’s/00s.

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        10 hours ago

        Maybe NASA would have bothered if its funding hadn’t been cut again and again and again…

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          11 hours ago

          NASA farms these out to outside companies to build anyway, as seen with the latest Boeing space fiasco, so I don’t necessarily believe this to be true. These defense contractors seem to be interested in little more than milking the US government for all they’re worth.

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              8 hours ago

              They have a $25B yearly budget.

              What is SpaceX spending on R&D? From what I’ve read, Starship is estimated to cost $10B for development and their R&D budget for 2023 was $1.5B. If NASA was going to build something similar themselves, they’ve had nearly 70 years and hundreds of billions to accomplish it.

              In reality their budget goes toward companies like Boeing, Northrop Grummon, and Lockheed Martin, who then pocket it and build substandard equipment. This is all public information so I can’t imagine why people are downvoting other than being extremely emotional for some inexplicable reason.

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                8 minutes ago

                NASA doesn’t have effective control of their budget anymore. Congress holds the purse strings and uses them like a harness

                NASA gets funding to do something - like go to the moon, or track CO2 emissions. But it comes with strings - sometimes you have to build a certain component in a certain congressional district, sometimes Congress chooses the design you have to use

                It’s a problem of politics and corruption. When the public supports NASA, they have more autonomy. When NASA gets a blank check, they do more with it - reusable rockets aren’t a new idea, and when they cancelled the shuttle program NASA had brain drain. Some of those people founded spaceX - Elon didn’t start it, he came in when they were getting off the ground, just like with Tesla

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              9 hours ago

              What spacecraft do you think they built themselves, without big contractors doing mos5 of the work…?

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          11 hours ago

          I actually prefer NASA to focus on science engineering. There’s a need for private launch capabilities anyway and this way NASA can focus on what they do best.

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            10 hours ago

            What’s the need for private launch capabilities? Private = capitalist. I don’t see much good in capitalist ventures.

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              9 hours ago

              Because there’s a need for private satellites? Should NASA use limited resources for that?

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        11 hours ago

        I’m hoping reusables becomes so standard Musks company isn’t needed anymore.

        But that’ll be a long ways off. I agree SpaceX basically revitalized the industry.