• Agent641@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Cop: Pardon me sir…

    Shooter: Points gun

    Cop: Ah, I see you’re a busy white man, Ill leave you to it.

  • friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    So, after this incident with Trump, does anybody really think the best solution to political violence is to allow more people at political rallies to carry guns? Sounds stupid, right? Because thats basically the response with every other shooting.

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      4 months ago

      Wasn’t the shooter stopped by people with guns? Sounds like Repub gun regulations working as they’re supposed to.

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        4 months ago

        No no, don’t downvote this comment people. I too, think more guns should be allowed at Republican rallies. Everyone should be armed there in fact. Then it’ll be less suspicious when someone with a rifle climbs a roof in the future.

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            4 months ago

            How is it law enforcement to show up hours after a crime and refuse to file a report?

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              I don’t know, but as a citizen you collect evidence & file a complaint. Refusing to take a report of a crime is certainly an issue that should be reported. As citizens we have to hold police accountable & try to vote for people that will help hold them accountable and create systems to ensure that issues are dealt with.

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            4 months ago

            police are the bottom tier of law enforcement AND they don’t even have to know the laws when they are FORCING you to comply

            ask anyone with any experience in the other tiers of law enforcement and you might get a good idea of what law enforcement is

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              I acknowledge a majority of police are blatantly in a position to do as thy will without any repercussions. There are a lot of bad judges too. I am not a fan of the issues, but we also have good judges and good cops, and places where the system is working as intended (for the most part). I have a hard time believing that getting rid of all law enforcement would be a good thing. I know there are people that like this concept, but there are gangs and groups of people that just want power themselves and to enforce their own concept of judgement and control without repercussions.

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                4 months ago

                the police is not all law enforcement

                police are a modern creation. civilized society can exist without the police. In the USA, police weren’t even a thing until 1838

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                  What do you propose then. It is easy to say ACAB & defund the police. I’ve heard the same from drug dealers and people that I don’t trust to protect and serve. If you have a proposal then send it to your representatives or run for office and try to get it implemented.

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          I don’t know where you live, but visiting your courthouse, watching trials and seeing the evidence and crimes people do in your area can be eye opening too. You have to ask yourself… without police, would there be more crime? Some places the answer may be no. I get that. Where I live, crime would be much more rampant.

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    4 months ago

    to be fair if I was on a ladder and got to the top and there was a dude pointing a gun at me, I could be the most elite warrior there is and still know the best option is retreat.

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        I guess only if you’d consider the founders of the US fascist. if one really, truly believes that Trump is really, truly the end of the Republic and the start of a regime of Christian fascism, isn’t this the whole reason the founders gave us the second amendment? Sic semper tyrannis, the tree of liberty must be watered and all that?

        Imho, it’s a moot point, the Republic is already dead, the people behind P2025 and the support network behind the Christian Fascism movement aren’t going to simply vanish in a puff of smoke if Trump loses or something happens to him. They’ll just pick someone else and keep coming back until they get the levers of government. I don’t think political violence changes anything except how we shamble into fascism.

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          If Christians are the reason fascism is winning, shouldn’t the Democrats be proposing legislation to tax the church and to label Christianity a domestic terrorist organization? I’m of the belief fascism is actually a minority position, but that Democrats put their worst candidate forward and then try to argue that you’re not voting for the candidate but against fascism. It might be a winning strategy, one time. This is not the first time though.