The shooter was 12 when Trump was first elected. archive

  • Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    There is so much that is unknown. Everything about his true motives will, likely, be speculation forever. But it’s best to let the FBI be the one that does the information reveal.

    This kid was 20 though. He might have had psychosis. Last presidential assassination attempt was Hinkley. This is around the age things like schizophrenia start to present themselves IIRC. This might have been a suicide by cop type situation and he wanted to be famous in the process? Who the hell knows.

    What if we had a law that you had to be 21 to buy guns though? That’s in line with “common sense” gun control. I’ve heard Obama say that phrase countless times since Sandy Hook. It could have made this a little different, maybe? It almost certainly would have prevented Uvalde. This is political violence, it’s horrible, I think this will help Trump win. Any left leaning person with half a brain can see that imo. This is also gun violence though. Gun control has to part of the answer to this. Remember who the Brady Bill was named after.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      But it’s best to let the FBI be the one that does the information reveal.

      Sirhan Sirhan would vehemently disagree.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    This isn’t as easy as it seems. Apparently it’s not uncommon to register to vote in a closed primary like PA for the opposite party you prefer in order to dilute the vote for the candidate you don’t like by voting for the person running against them in the party. So he may be a “registered republican voter”, but that may be as a minor act of sabotage rather than his real politics.

    E: what’s up with the rebuttals? “Yeah it happens but not really”? So it happens, but it couldn’t with this guy? If I’m wrong and he’s actually a Republican, great! But downvoting the possibility he registered the opposite of his beliefs isn’t gonna make it disappear.

    • johker216@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Apparently it’s not uncommon

      You know what’s incredibly more common? Being an actual Republican and voting in a Republican Primary.

      Everyone loves a harmless conspiracy theory, but this theory is anything but. Unless the shooter specifically admitted to this conspiracy theory, peddling this bullshit is reckless. About as stupid as child molesters in pizza place basements that don’t exist.

      • WraithGear@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Is it even more common to being a republican and assassinating the leader of the party? He “said” he was republican, but the shooting at republicans say otherwise. And i trust actions more than words. And the actions don’t get any more louder than that. Besides it does not matter one iota what Party he is affiliated with. The only thing that matters is the disappointment that he missed

        • klep@lemmy.ml
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          4 months ago

          The dislike for Trump crosses party affiliation and traditional right/left dichotomies. That is to say that there are A LOT of Republicans that dislike Trump and don’t see him as an ally, or see him as quite the opposite, in fact.

          • WraithGear@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            Possibly. But no one knows anything really, so this whole “he’s not with us! Our side would never do such a thing!” Is ridiculous. I have said it somewhere else, but i was thinking about changing my registration so i could vote for some other challenger in the republicans primary, but keeping Joe Biden from being the democrat nominee was too important to risk doing that.

    • markr@lemmy.world
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      That is almost entirely a myth. Yes, there are ‘cross over votes’ in states that don’t have open primaries but facilitate party enrollment, but those cross over voters are almost always ‘independent’ voters who enroll and then unenroll and are not doing anything other than voting for the candidate of their choice in the primary that candidate is running in. So called ‘strategic voting’, as far as I know, has never made any difference in any presidential primary, but go ahead and bring up the bodies.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        It’s not for presidential races.

        Its for state level races where you’re in one of the 40+ states where it’s a forgone conclusion what party wins the general.

        So some people give up their presidential primary vote, to vote in the state level primaries for the party virtually guaranteed to win their state, then vote for their preferred party in the general even if their candidate won the primary for the other party

        You might not think it’s common, but it’s the only way a lot of people’s votes have any actual effect, so lots of people do it

  • Hello_there@fedia.io
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    4 months ago

    How did they identify him using DNA? That’s a fucking red flag. Is there some database I’m not aware of? Or did he have prior arrests?

      • adj16@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Because it’s potentially indicative of a national database of everyone’s DNA, rather than just the criminal database, which would be (and perhaps is) a privacy nightmare

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          4 months ago

          Some states have been collecting blood for almost 40 years and can’t even really say why. They just started doing it…

          https://www.ibj.com/articles/58596-storing-babies-blood-samples-pits-privacy-versus-science

          Like, they have an excuse for taking the samples that seems valid. Except I don’t think they’re actually testing them. And there’s no reason to keep after testing.

          Now, I dont think it’s for a secret DNA database, I think it’s normal red state bullshit.

          Just pointing out in some states the take and keep blood samples from every birth

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      4 months ago

      I think that’s actually been disproven, it was a 60 something year old pa man with the same first and last name

          • Soup@lemmy.cafe
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            4 months ago

            I wonder if he was driven mad by ActBlue’s spam texts…. That’s shit makes me hostile as hell, and wish that I never paid to support Bernie.

            That shit is haunting me in the form of 10-15 texts a day.