• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      It doesn’t have to be hard. Harris should go to the top of the ticket, and the campaign apparatus stays the same.

      Have her, a former prosecutor, debate Trump and treat that shit like a cross examination.

      And make Sanders the VP to make me excited.

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        Sanders is too old. God love him, but it would not inspire confidence. If we’re going for a prominent progressive on the ticket, we’d have to go AOC.

        More likely though, Harris will pick someone who is an old white moderate male, though, unfortunately.

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            4 months ago

            Trump is 78, Sanders is 82. Realistically speaking, Trump is also at that age when decline can come very quickly, but:

            1. His cult doesn’t care

            AND

            1. Considering Trump’s ‘normal’ behavior, how would you even tell
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        4 months ago

        Trump and his team are not happy that Biden isn’t the Nominee anymore. There is absolutely no chance Trump agrees to debate her.

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      Knowing the Democrats, they’ll probably run an even older ticket somehow lol.

      Jimmy Carter/Bernie Sanders 2024!

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        Sanders is old but I still think he would have a shot on the ticket. He’s still got the same fighting spirit he had in him when he was getting arrested at civil rights protests.

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          He tried but the establishment stopped his momentum short. I was one of his diehards in 16.

          I like Whitmeyer, and I feel that a lot of former Bernie Bros have gotten behind her. I hope she gets the nomination, though I strongly doubt it will be anyone but Kamala.

          That said, regardless of who it is, absolutely voting for them no matter what.

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            Fucking bewilders me that he ran twice and we got Clinton and Biden instead.

            I suppose its probably got to do with the DNC wanting one of their own on the ballot instead of an Independent

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              Bernie hates the corporate establishment elites on the left a well as the right, and they knew the threat a Bernie presidency would be to them.

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      It’s already fucked up. Biden dropping out just handed the whole fucking thing to Trump.

      Edit: Alright, alright. This was a gut punch and I really felt Biden was our best shot. That said, this could be an opportunity and I’m here for it.

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        Today, since there’s an influx of comments essentially proclaiming “it’s Joever, Trump Wins” or “Harris won’t be able to win in November”, I’ve had to resort to checking people’s comments from a week before if they were saying Biden had a solid chance or if “everyone and anyone would be a bad choice so don’t bother”.

        You were one that genuinely believed in Biden unlike some of the anti-US trolls. I’m sorry, you don’t deserve the downvotes, I know your disappointment is legitimate. (You can see the user cabron who replied to you is one example of the other type I’m talking about). Don’t give up, there is still hope yet.

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          I appreciate you taking the effort. And with a little time to reflect I’m not as disheartened as I was earlier. I think it’s an uphill fight, but it was with Biden, too.

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        Oh, stop. We’re you one of the ones also saying him not dropping out handed it to Trump? Or that the assassination attempt picture handed it to Trump?

        Nothing has handed it to anyone. There are more liberal voters than conservative, including in battleground states. We just have to decide to rally around Harris and stop with the quibbling about one issue or another.

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        “Biden staying is handing it to Trump!” “Biden leaving it’s handing it to Trump!”

        Fuck off back to Russia, you’re just trying to persuade Democrats not to vote because Trump winning is what you want.

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          There are 10s of millions of eligible voters who don’t participate but then complain about the result. If they would show up to vote then campaign managers would put an effort into polling and engaging them to win their vote. If they want to protest then they can show up and cast an empty ballot.

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              We can plainly see that sitting out and not voting only tells those in power and campaigning that they don’t have to spend any time or money earning your vote. A vote of no confidence would be showing up and turning in a ballot with no selection for particular races. That puts you on public record as an active voter.

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                Allowing them to do whatever they want with no accountability has given us the political climate we are currently in.

                Biden could kill 200k Palestinians and not lose a single voter.

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                  Allowing them to do whatever they want with no accountability has given us the political climate we are currently in.

                  Exactly. Not voting is how you allow them to do whatever they want with no accountability. Third parties won’t be viable without election reform (which is at the state level) which we won’t get without replacing the incumbents through the party primaries.

                  Biden could kill 200k Palestinians and not lose a single voter.

                  Bull shit. He’s lost plenty of voters already for his handling of the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians. Even though he did actually put public pressure on Netanyahu for a ceasefire and he did in fact delay weapons shipments. He needed to do better, but Trump will be worse and if the Democratic party loses Trump will win. No amount of idealism will change that reality.