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People. We, the French, pulled a left-wing coalition out of our asses in less than a week and managed to “win” an election. You have months. Hope is permitted.
I’ll say just one thing:
Every single one of you assholes who wouldn’t shut up about him stepping down since the dude missed the toilet bowl fifty years ago after a particularly wild night out better sure as fuck step up now that Old Joe has stepped down.
A sitting god damned President of the United States has stepped aside less than half a year before reelection. Make no mistake: The man swallowed his pride and ego HARD to make this decision. Let’s honor that by creating a wall of votes so god. damned. thick. Riley Reid would gasp.
I don’t understand you people in this thread.
Ever since the debate, people have been calling for Joe Biden to step down from the presidential race and give the place to someone else.
Now I read the comments and everyone is criticizing and accusing the Democrats of not knowing what they’re doing? Are you for real? They’re doing EXACTLY what people have been asking for. They’re doing EXACTLY what needs to be done if they want to win.
Fucking hell you guys, make up your fucking mind.
Sincerely,
A Canadian with severe anxiety over your next presidential election.
Well guys… Have you seen Trump’s mental decline since he last ran?! How old is he now?
Surely nobody would be dumb enough to vote someone that old into office now… That is… What we have been saying? Right guys?
Trump gets attention for nearly getting assassinated.
Biden: Hold my Metamucil
My aunt was laughing at Biden and how old he is. I reminded her that Trump is only 2 years younger and shits his diapers regularly
The difference is Trump is on drugs that keep him up.
Adrenachrome. It’s always projection. jk
Trump keeps his energy level up by nearly getting shot at.
Unrelated but Metamucil is actually pretty awesome. I love spicy food but my stomach isn’t so good at it, but if I take fiber beforehand I’m usually okay. Although since it’s just fiber you can usually just get the store brand to do the same thing.
Yeah I down some psyllium husk capsules every couple of days on general principles. Makes my innards happier.
Fiber supplements in general are pretty sweet and I think it’s the elderly’s best-kept secret.
Personally I prefer fiber gummies though. Same ingredient but more concentrated. Get the same dose from 5 capsules in two gummies.
So, obviously research this yourself and don’t listen to some dumbass on the Internet. As I understand it, there’s a difference between soluble fiber and insoluble fiber. Soluble fiber is good for your cholesterol and blood sugar. Insoluble fiber is good for digestion. It’s very likely that any fiber gummies are gonna be soluble fiber. I take the metamucil capsules for insoluble and fiber gummies for soluble.
This has been my nerd rant.
I take it daily because it keeps my insides on a schedule. Regular, you might say.
Also, Costco has two packs of the huge Metamucil containers pretty cheap
Yeah, this whole ordeal really took the wind out of that and the RNC. The conspiratorial part of my brain says that this was planned weeks ago to do that.
Biden did several classy things during some real fuckin difficult times. I can’t imagine how tough this decision was. I really hope we as a country can galvanize solid opposition and keep Trump/Vance’s asses out. Let’s be grateful for the good Biden has done, and if Kamala is the next up that gets the nomination, support the hell out of her.
and if Kamala is the next up that gets the nomination, support the hell out of her.
We all understand this isn’t the battle of mordor, this is after the battle of mordor and we are at the edge of the volcano trying to work up to the edge to cast the ring back into the fiery pit.
the ring must go in the lava
Nobody outside of the maga bubble (which is NOT a majority of the country) is confused about that, the problem was a lot of people along a broad spectrum didn’t think Biden could win with concerns mostly around age/mental state but also it just wasn’t the right vibe for the moment (also his horrendous handling of the Palestinian Genocide which Kamala isn’t necessarily a solution to but I will take a partial win when I can get a win).
Kamala can easily beat Trump, it isn’t about being charismatic it is just about speaking truth to the moment and honestly Kamala can walk away with this election just by running as a pro-choice candidate who is a woman alone, and of course that won’t be all she will run on.
Do I like Kamala? No. Do I think this fixes the Democratic Party? Absolutely not. Do I think this is good news and will I now support Kamala where I was having extreme difficulty supporting Biden? No doubt, I want to see meaningful motion on the treatment of the Palestinian Genocide, but for all you centrists out there who kept claiming leftist Biden haters aren’t going to support the replacement for Biden if Biden stepped down… the moment is now… and look around you, support just skyrocketed for the Democratic nominee for president in every conceivable way except a sliver of racists in the middle who already were MAGA heads in the hearts anyways…
So Kamala taking over is her saying to frodo that she can’t carry the ring but she can carry him?
yes
Like supporting Genocide.
So well played!..let them spend millions and millions on a campaign against Joe, then as soon as Dumbnald was picked, Joe bugs out and in his place…first black woman multiracial presidential candidate. Vs. crazy rapist felon, who would win?
C’mon republicans! Your move! 😉. Maybe bring back the girl who can see Alaska from her house because she lives in Alaska and not ruzzia.
first black woman multiracial presidential candidate. Vs. crazy rapist felon, who would win?
I’m thinking of starting to save these brainlet comments for a nice meltdown compilation after Trump wins.
The election is not won by “who the majority of people want”. It’s won by electoral votes in swing states, and Trump is still the favored candidate there.
I was thinking to save all the brainlet comments all the wannabe socialists and communists make, but then I realized they’re in a nice and convenient place called lemmy.ml
And I keep reminding people that voting specifically for POTUS is basically a waste of time since the electors are actually the people who actually get to vote.
Sure you wouldn’t want to have 90% republican electors. But in the ends it’s those idiots who get to select the president. Not us. And the BS behind the system is basically to allow unpopulated areas to have more voice. But unpopulated areas are all Republican. What are we? Stupid?
I was never going to vote “for Joe” and I’m not planning on voting “for Kamila”. I vote for my kids. Who wants them to get a good education? Who wants them to have control over their own bodies? Who wants to leave the world a better place for them? Whichever candidate is the best for my kids is who gets the vote. I’d vote for an inanimate carbon rod before Trump because even a president who did nothing would be better for the future than Trump.
No
Biden is our democratic palisade to the January 6th coup on the United States of America.
Whatever else Biden did, Biden stopped the flood. That is the Biden legacy to me.
The biggest hot-topic issue this election should have been abortion (and by extension, SCOTUS). But the discussion got side-tracked by all this talk of old age. The debate just reinforced the narrative and concern with Biden. They would have hammered him over and over, with Trump bragging about how quickly he recovered from an injury.
Now, we have:
- A sittingVP with actual Whitehouse experience, who can take credit for all the economic policies under Biden. Also, a former Senator.
- A prosecutor and former Attorney General vs a convicted felon.
- The age issue disappears (in fact, it now becomes a liability against Trump).
- A woman vs the guy who bragged about killing Roe v. Wade.
- Future of SCOTUS.
If she just keeps talking about those topics non-stop, she’ll do fine.
The only thing better would have been if Biden had resigned to let people see her in the actual role, but this works. She picks a mid-westerner as VP who can stand up to Vance and it’s a whole new ballgame.
I’m actually stoked about this race again.
Unfortunately we also have:
- A non-white candidate
- A non-male candidate
- A very sexist and racist electorate, who basically voted Trump in because they were so upset by the election of Barack Hussein Obama
It remains to be seen if the racists and sexists will prevail.
Having said that, this might energize women who are on the fence and want to see the first female president. It might energize black voters. It will almost certainly energize Indian voters, possibly even all South-Asian voters. It will definitely energize voters who were worried about the age of the candidates. And now, suddenly, Trump has to go on the defensive about his age.
As long as all the democrats fall in line and push for Kamala, it might go really well. If Hillary Clinton goes out and works for Kamala, it could energize the people who are still angry about her loss, and can now channel that into the new option for a first female president. If Biden campaigns for her, it could reassure all the people who just wanted some stability.
OTOH, if there is infighting, and people trying to take her down so that they can become the nominee, then that could be trouble too.
Could we tap Liz Cheney to be our Vance wrangler?
Not a candidate, no, KH will still need a VP.
I just mean a wrangler. Someone who’s sole purpose is to disrupt JD Vance anyway possible…
Maybe she could:
- Follow JD around, constantly whispering that she’s going to grab him by his pussy
- Send him noose shaped flowers and cakes to decorate his new office
- Pay Clint Howard to randomly walk by Vance every day & accuse him of ruining his brother’s directing career
- Leave a conspicuous trail of classified documents behind him
- Lewdly suggest she would have her relations with her attractive child, on camera
- Smear fecal matter on his desk & let Pelosi call of his efforts a bowl of poopoo
- Constantly make contact & remind JD who her father is.
I think Liz Cheney would be awesome at all of these things. As long as we don’t “elect” her, what could go wrong?
The only thing better would have been if Biden had resigned to let people see her in the actual role, but this works.
I used to be an advocate for this, until I realized that in this political environment, whoever President Harris picks for VP would need both House and Senate approval, and this House will take a page from Mitch’s book and simply not bother. So you would have your first female and mixed-race President, in a country full of armed bigots, and if they get to her, Mike Johnson becomes President and can start Project 2025 early.
Now you have someone who has not been seen since she was elected VP with no time at all to prepare her for a presedential run. You will get Trump again because the dems are so fucking stupid and stabbed Biden in the back this late.
I would love for Kamala Harris to be more charismatic and less ineffectual than she currently is, I’ll vote for whoever is not Trump. Now is the perfect opportunity to reinvigorate the campaign and turn everything upside down, but I’m not optimistic. They’ll probably trot out Hillary Clinton again if it’s not Harris, and it’ll be a replay of 2016.
Wait wait, let me guess, now all of the sudden we’re not literally fascists for thinking that it would be best if Biden stepped down. A sincere fuck you too everyone who commented accordingly for the last month.
It’s the good old Stockholm Syndrome of those who have never lived under anything but the American Political System: there’s this instinctive compulsion to chose and unwaveringly support whomever of the people imposed to them by those holding their lives hostage looks less nasty.
It’s an understandable animal-level survival instinct, though on a broader, strategical perspective, it actually preserves and even reinforces unfairness of the system - it’s been a long, long time since the Tree of liberty was last refreshed with the blood of tyrants and patriots and it shows.
Nope now you’re literally a facist and a tankie if you’re not sucking Kamala’s toes.
You’re allowed to think so long as you agree. Pick a cult quick before everyone hates you.
I kept saying he should have been replaced a year ago. Hell I didn’t ever want him to be president, I think at this point it’s too late to get rid of him and expect anything good. And a black woman being president isn’t gonna happen in the u.s.
The Democrats should literally nominate Tom Hanks and he’d win, honestly. Just get a figurehead in there who will win on sheer popularity
And a black woman being president isn’t gonna happen in the u.s.
I don’t know. The rest of the world was shocked when racist ol’ U.S. elected Obama (not to say the rest of the world doesn’t have racism). I think change really animates you guys. In a sick way, even Trump is a sign of that.
Now I’m not sure Harris is really a “change candidate” (don’t know much about her tbh), but anything outside the status quo – I think – is what’s going to get your non-automatic voters out there.
Looking at the bigger picture (after this election…), it sounds like your DNC is what keeps legitimate progressive/change candidates off the ballot - not that people won’t vote for them. But maybe I’m in a bubble.
Merelly if she’s not an unwavering supporter of genocidal ethno-Fascists, it will already mean that this election is not a constest between two evil lovers of Fascism.
This is a replay of Hillary Clinton I’m afraid.
Obama was an extremely competent extremely strong black man, he was able to leave the charge and convince the minority communities to rally.
Harris is openly pro police. I don’t think these communities will be voting Trump anytime soon but they also might not really feel engaged enough to go vote Harris.
This is the kind of move that makes the moderates stay home. The only thing the left has going for it with this move is the crazier Trump acts the more likely they will be to come out, and he’s pretty f****** crazy.
Why contradict yourself?
Depends on your reaction to the new Dem nominee tbh.
And downvoted us. It was fucked up Correct the Record style brigading.
This whole Biden stepping down vs Trump saga is a metaphor for the American baby boomer generation’s approaches to their own reckoning of their old age and their reluctance to pass down the torch to another generation.
Oh God yes, and it is reflected in my own family members who are all in their 70s. They strongly believe that a 70 or 80 year old is in “the prime of their life” and that “I have never been of sharper mind and more capable than at the age of 74.”
Just totally delusional. “Me” generation indeed.
Yes, they have a wealth of knowledge but they don’t realize that at that age they need to decide for the improvement of the next generation. But unfortunately people are selfish like that.
Yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking.
I feel really bad for Biden. There’s more that he wants to do. But he’s gotten too old to be able to do those things. But he’s accepted it, and he should be respected for that.
He will still have enormous influence when the Dems keep the White House for the next presidential term. And that’s a good position for him to be in, he has great experience, knowledge, vision, and insight.
Exactly. Too bad he had to perform so badly at the debate to get to this point (instead of graciously acknowledging it earlier and by himself) but his body language in the past few months indicated that he should become more of a consultant/advisor once his term ends
Biden’s too old to be a baby boomer. But until very recently, he acted like one.
I don’t think they’re saying Biden IS a baby boomer. They were saying that it’s all a metaphor for the boomers’ general approach to their lives.
I know people will say this is bad, a new campaign will be rushed, etc. But I think we all know Biden was an excuse for many not to vote, or worse, to vote for Trump. Withdrawing will be his legacy when we win, not his failing.
Thank you President Biden. You are a hero.
for everyone sake: phew. i feel sorry for him, he obviously lacks energy and needs to not be trying to run america and fight trump.
Honestly, the decision should have been obvious. If he stayed in and lost, his legacy was done.
Now, he has this nice story of being the bridge candidate and handing it over to the next generation. He can enjoy the remainder of his life with less stress, still in an advisory role, enjoying time with friends & family. He’s had some rough moments in his life and he should get some peace.
that and having the legacy of ‘political genius who completely upended trump’s campaign by waiting until they’d over-committed and then not competing’
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honestly you have a chance to do better here now
