• mydude@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I didn’t criticize biden, I criticized obama, because obama/democrats had the house and senate (fillibuster proof) and still did not deliver codified roe, even though he specifically ran on it…

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      4 months ago

      Yeah I’m just making a generalization because it sounds better than b b b Democrats bad!1! It really makes no difference, all you want to do is say b b b but Obama/Dems/Biden/etc baddd!1!

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      4 months ago

      In 2008 no one expected roe to be overturned, it wasn’t even remotely a thought. The promise of the Obama administration was healthcare reform, which they burned all their political capital on.

      Additionally, the democrats never had their super majority because of the GOP challenging a senate seat/refusing to seat them and Al Franken’s subsequent departure.

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        In 2008 no one expected roe to be overturned

        Why would they craft a bill to protect against that possibility if no one expected it?

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          We thought we had time and could do other things like health care for sick kids.

          We didn’t realize what enormous fucking dipshit assholes the republiQans were fine with being.

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            We thought we had time and could do other things like health care for sick kids.

            And “we” couldn’t even do that. Just gave enormous subsidies to private insurance instead. Did nothing to control the price of medical care so that nowadays we have people dying because the price of insulin exploded (just one example). All because Democrats had to compromise with conservatives even with what should have been a fillibuster-proof majority.

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              Huge populations of people who couldn’t see doctors before, now could. And it was moving mountains to get that. Yeah, it was Romneycare, that’s what we could get at the end of the day. Want H4A? Me too. Let’s vote in overwhelming majorities then ride them until they deliver.

              That’s why, when our precious progressiver-than-yous bitch about everything not being a literal paradise and therefore they can’t help progress I want to utter unspeakable unholy curses. It takes a lot of work. And it’s twice as hard when both the so-called-left and the right are against it.

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                Democrats had an overwhelming when they passed obamacare.it was conservative Democrats who refused to vote for single payer. If Democrats had fallen in line and voted with their party it would have passed without any Republican votes needed, but the Blue Dogs said “no”.

                Of course it’s difficult. It’s especially difficult when the party that claims to be progressive refuses to pass progressive policies when they have the opportunity to.

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                  4 months ago

                  50%+1 is all that’s required to overturn the filibuster. Pelosi chose to let the blue-dog democrats block single-payer because they were getting shittons of money from the insurance companies.

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        4 months ago

        Did you not watch the four videos I linked. He specifically talks about roe.

        The healthcare plan came from Mitt Romney, so how they “burned all political capital” on that is gaslighting.

        Google obama filibuster proof